JJr Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 The "honeycomb mesh" showed up and it was junk. It was too thin and won't work. Whatta ya gonna do? I sent it back and I need to find something somewhere else. I have a meeting set up for Monday with a water jet company one town over so I'd avoid shipping costs. I talked to him on the phone today and had him look at the exact pattern of the S402 grills. He said he'll bring me out on the floor and show me his shop and can have his engineer write up a program for the pattern and hit it near exact. It'd be near spot on and it'd be made of aluminum which is better than plastic in my opinion, but it's going to cost quite a bit to do. Plastic in this pattern sold in sheets its pricey anyways, plus I'll have to pay shipping and I can't mold it to bow out. I'll find out more Monday after work and let you guys know. Aluminum sound great! Cost, wait and see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nospmoht04 Posted March 23, 2013 Author Share Posted March 23, 2013 Yeah I mean it'd be pretty BA to have some material cut exactly how the actual S402 grill is even though it'll cost. I know that even if it's expensive I'll be making one for my car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nospmoht04 Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 I just met with the water jet shop. An engineer there has all of the info on what I'm trying to do and is going to run a few different pricing scenerios. I'm looking at the idea of possibly using plastic instead of aluminum too. It'd take way less time to have a water jet slicing through plastic vs metal and the pricing is dependent on how long the jet is running. Metal could end up jacking the price way up since it'd be a lot of starting and stopping cutting to do this pattern. Either way I'll get some prices on both and go from there. Once I hear from him and get a better idea on how I'm going to get this honeycomb material I'll post it here, but in the meantime I can continue to make the recessed version of the grill with the standard mesh I used in the pictures. Thanks for lookin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nospmoht04 Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 I think I might have found something, but it'll take a little time. Stay tuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Catalyst. Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Here's a good set of pictures with some other angles for viewing the JDM style honeycomb grill... http://legacygt.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2185335&postcount=26 My spec.B [#163] Project Thread with Pictures Get CryoTuned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nospmoht04 Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 (edited) Oh nice those are some good shots. I havent been able to track down anything with that sort of thickness while holding that pattern and having the cell walls be thick enough. I haven't found anything that thick and to have it cut out of that sized plastic leaves so much wasted material and takes so much time that the price goes way up. I'm sure Subaru had a mold they made their mesh with. To have 3/16" aluminum sheet cut into that pattern by a water jet, I was quoted $92 per 27"x7" piece which is about the size I'd need per grill. That's without any significant depth like in those shots. Plastic would be cheaper but still pretty expensive per grill. I could have it routed but it'd still be $50+ per grill for aluminum. The stuff I'm buying to try out now has the same shape and dimensions but it's only around 1/4" thick and slightly thicker cell walls.. Is that a look that you guys will be into? Because ultimately it is up to you and not just me. It will look great, it'll just look a little different, but the grill will be different anyway because the 05-07 USDM grill is smaller than the JDM S402 grill so it kind of matches the proportion. I'm going to make one out of it when it's shipped and you guys can give me some feedback. Edited March 28, 2013 by nospmoht04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nospmoht04 Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 Here's what I'm looking at: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniStiGuy Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 if I still had time and a place to work on these I'd buy a honeycomb grill and make a mold for it and make them. I used to do fiberglass work growing up repairing surfboards and then got into making front lips. I designed all the RBS stuff for 2008+ cars also. The hardest thing for me when I was doing grills was sourcing good honeycomb at a good price. I see you are finding it just as hard as I did. If you don't mind buying a honeycomb grill you can find someone local to you that does fiberglass work and have them mold it for you. Mold should cost about $500-$1000 dollars to make and each grill should cost ~$100-$125 to make. I'd say a fair price for one would be around the $200-250 mark and then buyers pay shipping. Anyways.. best of luck to you. OEM HID's Rx330 Retro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nospmoht04 Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 Thanks again for the advice, a mold is something I'll look into a little further down the road. For now I do have a couple things going. I just got some new tools to make things a bit easier. The ideas and support have been awesome. The community here is outstanding and better than I've seen anywhere else. It makes doing all this really worthwhile and I'll keep prices as low as possible. Thanks again and I'll be in touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegspear Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 i've been following this thread for awhile, not in any rush for a new grill but will definitely want one down the line once you have the s402 style figured out, best of luck as you dial this process in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisheregirafFe Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 man those are coming out really sharp. really nice job all around. thinking i might have to order one soon, will be in touch. i can put anything i want down here?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slackoff01 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 interesting - in to drool over pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blongo804 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Will be watching this thread like a hawk! Just had to replace my old JDM Genome grill with a mesh grill... Would like honeycomb! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nospmoht04 Posted March 31, 2013 Author Share Posted March 31, 2013 Coming along nicely. Emblems will definitely be needed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Catalyst. Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Will the smaller 05-07 emblem be large enough or do you think we will need the 08+ (larger)? My spec.B [#163] Project Thread with Pictures Get CryoTuned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nospmoht04 Posted March 31, 2013 Author Share Posted March 31, 2013 Yeah I'm gonna have to get a 08+ one and compare it to see if it looks good. The 05-07 grill is a little smaller so hopefully the bigger emblem isnt too big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nospmoht04 Posted March 31, 2013 Author Share Posted March 31, 2013 Will need the 08+ emblem and looks better anyways. A nice big emblem in the center. It's the look of a lot of newer cars nowadays anyways. It'll give a good look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nospmoht04 Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share Posted April 3, 2013 I figured out how I'm doing it and one is almost done. It pretty spot on, it just needs an 08+ emblem for the center. I'll get some pics up later this week. This is definitely the learning phase of it and it's been a lot of work tuning it in. I'll have it all laid out after this and be able to make them a lot faster going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06LegacyRBP Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 WOW..cant wait to see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screamin Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I figured out how I'm doing it and one is almost done. It pretty spot on, it just needs an 08+ emblem for the center. I'll get some pics up later this week. This is definitely the learning phase of it and it's been a lot of work tuning it in. I'll have it all laid out after this and be able to make them a lot faster going forward. Kind of wish I waited now lol. I am still interested in one of these grills though, looking forward to seeing the outcome. Would it work if I was to send you the grill I bought you and you made the moddifications or would it be easier with a used factory grill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nospmoht04 Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share Posted April 3, 2013 Kind of wish I waited now lol. I am still interested in one of these grills though, looking forward to seeing the outcome. Would it work if I was to send you the grill I bought you and you made the moddifications or would it be easier with a used factory grill? PMed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublimejoe Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Here is mine, for reference: http://i.imgur.com/Ajti8YZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/uNXRURr.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Catalyst. Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I figured out how I'm doing it and one is almost done. It pretty spot on, it just needs an 08+ emblem for the center. I'll get some pics up later this week. This is definitely the learning phase of it and it's been a lot of work tuning it in. I'll have it all laid out after this and be able to make them a lot faster going forward. Can't wait to see! Should I order the emblem, or would you like to attach one and I can pay your cost for the 08 emblem? My spec.B [#163] Project Thread with Pictures Get CryoTuned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nospmoht04 Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share Posted April 3, 2013 Looks like I can get them through a vendor on here for $46.14. You know the part # for the emblem just to be sure? Dealer wont look it up without a VIN number he says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Catalyst. Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Price looks right. Subaru Genuine Parts has it for like $45 for an 08 Legacy front emblem (non Outback). #5 Emblem, Emblem ORNAMENT F SIX - Legacy List Price : $61.52 Your Price : $45.03 My spec.B [#163] Project Thread with Pictures Get CryoTuned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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