gathermewool Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 If the next-gen LXT (or some Spec B variant) is ever offered with an MT, it will be my next car. If not, then I may go for a OBXT in five years or so. '15 FB25 Magnatec 0W-20 + FU filter (70,517 miles) RSB, Fr. Strut Bar, Tint, STI BBS, LED er'where Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTG Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Electric cars are around the corner and you guys are all talking about Manual transmission, LOL. Not going to happen, period. Now if these were some high-end exclusive cars like, say Porsche 911 GT3, then bring the manual campaign would work, just as it did with the GT3. Even if there was to be a manual Legacy, then people would b-itch about it not being a wagon, then not naturally aspired blah blah blah. There is always an excuse when it comes to justifying not buying a car. Folks should be glad that there are still some cars in Subaru's line up that are manuals. Go buy those while you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gathermewool Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Who would complain that an MT Subie was FI!? Subaru is more likely to offer a sporty Legacy with an MT than an E-version. Subaru will always be behind the eight ball when it comes to E-anything.... '15 FB25 Magnatec 0W-20 + FU filter (70,517 miles) RSB, Fr. Strut Bar, Tint, STI BBS, LED er'where Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ammcinnis Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Subaru will always be behind the eight ball when it comes to E-anything.... "Always" is a very long time. I think the market will eventually force Subaru, along with every other manufacturer, into offering electric vehicles. "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there." ~ The Cheshire Cat (Alice in Wonderland) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 It's the legislation that will force manufacturers into the line of various means to cope with fuel consumption constraints and safety demands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too40gawlf Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 "Always" is a very long time. I think the market will eventually force Subaru, along with every other manufacturer, into offering electric vehicles. Nope. The market is very clear in its preferences. Its big government marxists and globalists that are forcing the mandate of the electric car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wankey Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Manual is completely finished. It's like CRTs. Toyota's stats: 1% take rate for corolla. 5% take rate for corolla hatch. And get this bomb: 33% take rate for their 86!!! Even their sports car made for the manual, 66% of buyers are opting for the automatic. I'm now even thinking WRX has probably 60% automatic nowadays, I'm even considering the CVT (drove CVT vs the manual, manual feels so old school and only good when you want to pound the transmission for 0-60) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too40gawlf Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) Manual is completely finished. It's like CRTs. Toyota's stats: 1% take rate for corolla. 5% take rate for corolla hatch. And get this bomb: 33% take rate for their 86!!! Even their sports car made for the manual, 66% of buyers are opting for the automatic. I'm now even thinking WRX has probably 60% automatic nowadays, I'm even considering the CVT (drove CVT vs the manual, manual feels so old school and only good when you want to pound the transmission for 0-60) Just as people still prefer a bolt action rifle vs. a semi auto, there will always be a certain segment of cars that will retain a manual. Im sorry, anyone that is otherwise not inhibited by a medical condition (like a broken leg or surgically repaired knee) and can consider the Subaru CVT over the manual is just not a car guy. Thats like someone saying they would rather curl up with their girlfriend pillow rather than spend a night with Kate Upton because the pillow is easier to manage. Edited May 17, 2019 by Too40gawlf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 I'm now even thinking WRX has probably 60% automatic nowadays, I'm even considering the CVT (drove CVT vs the manual, manual feels so old school and only good when you want to pound the transmission for 0-60) The current gen WRX is only ~15% CVT take rate. I don't know if Subaru is constraining CVT production or not, but the CVT WRX is uncommon variation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRuu Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 thats crazy, i just looked up the mx5 or miata automatic take rate and it was 24% although i've still never seen one in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcor Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 The current gen WRX is only ~15% CVT take rate. I don't know if Subaru is constraining CVT production or not, but the CVT WRX is uncommon variation. My wife is considering a 2019 auto WRX for her next car. Almost as much a unicorn as my GT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 The current gen WRX is only ~15% CVT take rate. I don't know if Subaru is constraining CVT production or not, but the CVT WRX is uncommon variation. The WRX actually has a take rate of 90% MT. I had come up with my numbers based on Autotrader and Cars.com FS ads. Every time I looked it was in the high 80's so I rounded down to 85%. https://www.autoblog.com/2019/05/21/subaru-brz-manual-transmission-take/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcor Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Yeah, it's going to be hard to find one for her to test drive. As of now the closest one is in Wichita (3 hours away). I did find some used ones local though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Yeah, it's going to be hard to find one for her to test drive. As of now the closest one is in Wichita (3 hours away). I did find some used ones local though. You can always order one, WRX don't depreciate that much anyways and I don't trust the stereo typical WRX owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcor Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 You can always order one, WRX don't depreciate that much anyways and I don't trust the stereo typical WRX owner. It will be leased, so the used automatic test drive would just be for reference. She is interested in all Subaru's except for the legacy. Since we had to put down our Lab a couple weeks ago, we will not need a wagon anymore. Not planing on getting a big dog again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesubie Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 The WRX actually has a take rate of 90% MT. I had come up with my numbers based on Autotrader and Cars.com FS ads. Every time I looked it was in the high 80's so I rounded down to 85%. https://www.autoblog.com/2019/05/21/subaru-brz-manual-transmission-take/ That includes the STI. If they provided the stats for the WRX only, I think the manual take rate would be lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 That includes the STI. If they provided the stats for the WRX only, I think the manual take rate would be lower. Yes the Subaru number 90% includes the STI which the article mentions. If you goto cars.com and limit the search to 2015-2019 and WRX models, and then narrow it to MT only. Its 2833 MT out of 3275 WRX's FS currently, which is 86.5%. [i have done this a few times and its always higher than 85%.] If the search includes the WRX & STI, the MT comes out to 89.5% currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golferdude1087 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 If you want a manual in this car, you are going to have to wait and see on the 2021 STi when it finally gets the FA24 motor. Now if the STi gets its standard 6 speed manual or some dual clutch (i wouldn't be surprised if Subaru went down that path), its going to be what we hopefully can put in the 7th gen. There will almost certainly not be a factory manual option. Subaru is too small of a company and there is not a big enough following to justify throwing a manual in because why the heck not. They aren't toyota. Toyota may be crap on manual sales but they have the capital to not care (evidence by the very low take rate on the cars and yet they still sell them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 I would be really surprised if they went for a dual clutch option, it doesn't make any sense whatsoever when they have the high torque CVT matched with the 2.4 already. It would make more sense to put in the 6MT then for anyone willing to go retro since that gearbox already exists and is proven to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjcarst Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I sold my 2008 SpecB and want another. No CVT for me. Will buy WRX if needed, but want a turbo manual Legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Nick Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 I hate how manufacturers are doing away with manuals but they just don’t sell like they used to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loya1ty Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 At this point I'd rather buy a MT 5th gen legacy over the current WRX MTs. Wish they'd make another LGT as it'd be an easy decision for a next car. I find the Legacys way above Imprezas in interior and ride quality (not quite as go-kart-ish tho) and more enjoyable to drive around in. The new legacys look ugly to me though.. too mainstream on the design and the wheels *barf*. I guess I'll hold out for the refresh on the WRX/STI and hope there is slightly more leg room in the back with some more comfort options and that larger HP. IF not, my days of Subie are done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcor Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 More than likely the new WRX/STI will be on the new platform and they have just over an inch more rear legroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeChadash Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golferdude1087 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 So...Prime motoring just revealed a Crosstrek with a FA24 and STi 6MT which means the FA24 can (and now has) been mated to the STi 6mt. Looks like whoever wants to drop some cash has a blueprint to follow in the legacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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