Lisa B Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 My Legacy GT wagon has been killing and running rough. When going from reverse to drive it often dies or from park to rev same thing. I scanned with cmputer said has a misfire on 2 and 4. Already changed plugs and fuel filter but no change. Timing is good, no vac leaks. Any suggestions?? maybe bad plug wires ?? Dealers are of no help unless you pay them and I refuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travgag Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Do you have spark on those two cylinders ? is the coil good ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baddog Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 1+3 and 2+4 are on the same bank. So if 2-4 are throwing codes. I would suspect the coil pack. Replace the coil pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJay03 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Maybe something is up with your selector switch on the side of the trans since it does it when changing gears. A bad nuetral switch on the manual trans can cause this same issue putting it into limp mode causing 2 of the cylinders to miss fire. I cant remember if it was 1-2 or 3-4 though. The ecu usually does not throw a code for the misfire when this happens though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnegg Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 check the timing. the coil is split front and rear, this means 1 + 2 fire together, and 3 + 4 fire together. so probably not the coil or the igniter. cylinders 2 + 4 are on the same head, drive side. if the timing belt jumped a tooth or two it could cause problems. if the plugs and wires are not the issue, (most common cause of misfires) then it may be timing. remove the cam timing covers, 3 bolts each side, and see if the timing marks match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast4by Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Ignition Control module could cause it as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headtrauma89 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Check your valve lash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassnectar Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 lol before checking valve lash please do a basic compression test before u get the valve covers off! !!!  but yes verify your timing mark lines up. get a spark plug tester or just ground the plug wire to a vehicle ground and rotate the balancer till the lines match up u should get a spark from cylinder 1 at the same time the marks lined up.  (comes from small block knowledge but if the firing order starts with one it will work. Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJay03 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 When running in park does it miss or does it just start when you change gears? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooln30 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Compression test first. Something fishy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnegg Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 i'm pretty sure the ECU adjusts the idle when you shift out of P or N to prevent stalling. or to keep it running under greater load, but i'm not sure exactly how or why. but if the car stalls in P or N, then there is an issue, like a vac leak, or a mis-fire on 2 cylinders, that lets it die. these cars will run on 3 cylinders, and you can keep them running on 2 , but they may not idle on only 2 cylinders. cure the mis-fire first. check the timing . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa B Posted March 29, 2014 Author Share Posted March 29, 2014 I have changed the splugs, wires, coil pack and timing belt. The timing was off by about 1 inch(yikes). When put all back together the codes for misfire on 2 & 4 went away and showed no codes at all. It wouldnt stay running was rough with a very low idle. Im going to check the timing belt first to make sure its not off a notch before buying anything else. Thanks for all the input from all its very helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooln30 Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Here's a good tip. Once you get the t belt on and pull the pin on the tensioner rotate the crankshaft two times. Aligning the cranks timing mark then double check all of the marks. When I do the DOHC t belts I will offset the left banks cam gears clockwise about a tooth. This is because sometimes once you adjust the tensioner the right bank cam gears pull the t belt and will knock the left side off a tooth or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnegg Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 It wouldnt stay running was rough with a very low idle.check the large vac hose, bigger than your thumb, that runs from the IAC on the rear of the intake manifold, passenger side, to the bottom of the plastic intake plenum. it is easy to miss because you can not see where it connects to the plenum, it is on the very bottom side. it is common for it to come lose any time you have the air filter box open or the plenum disconnected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subieadam Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 The knock sensor on these cars crack, usually they throw multiple missfire coedes. You can visually check if its cracked, and most likely thats all you need to replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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