sbao26975 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Been doing some research (not too much info on 13/14) and found that for the 13/14 2.5i: Front diffs need a T70 Torx Bit. Are there any gaskets I need to replace? Rear diffs need a 10mm hex bit. Also any tips? I have a 18in. breaker bar..should this be enough? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow_419 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 The rear diff just needs to get enough leverage to muscle it. Make sure the fill bolt is loose before you try to get the drain open. I had a crush washer on my transmission drain (6mt). May be the same for your differential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orndog Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Is the front diff still separate on the CVT models? Make sure you aren't draining the CVT by accident. As for leverage at the rear, if you are at wit's end you can put a jack under the handle of your breaker bar for the rear diff and start jacking (make sure you are left loosey). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee199969 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 As for leverage at the rear, if you are at wit's end you can put a jack under the handle of your breaker bar for the rear diff and start jacking (make sure you are left loosey). Why did I not think of this??? You just saved me some $$ thanks man My "Build" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy.B Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Mine were pretty rusted up and they came off pretty easily. http://legacygt.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5346324&postcount=12 Here's my write up for the 3.6R. I'm not positive on fill amounts, torque specs and gaskets. The front should be the same but the 3.6 rear is different? You might have to wrestle more with the front drain bolt like I did. Timothy.B's 2011 LEGACY 3.6R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy.B Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Found this this on the Forester forum. The gasket part numbers should be the same. Seems they got rid of the fill tube for the front. I never noticed the overfill plug on mine. I'm gonna guess they dropped the dipstick in place of an overfill plug. Timothy.B's 2011 LEGACY 3.6R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbao26975 Posted April 11, 2016 Author Share Posted April 11, 2016 Found this as well: http://jdmfsm.info/Auto/Japan/Subaru/Legacy%20Outback/2014/USDM%20Legacy%20FSM%202014%20(BM-BR)/4%20TRANSMISSION%20SECTION/CONTINUOUSLY%20VARIABLE%20TRANSMISSION%20CVT/3%20Differential%20Gear%20Oil.pdf Although no mention of gaskets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 You shouldn't need a gasket for either of the diffs. The transmission drain plugs get gaskets. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeRib Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Is this a requirement? I have 62k on mine and haven't changed my diff fluid. I've never owned a car where I needed to do this service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsp0kn Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Is this a requirement? I have 62k on mine and haven't changed my diff fluid. I've never owned a car where I needed to do this service. It is the 60K maintenance and while we can't tell you what to do with your car, you should definitely do it to keep it running well for as long as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy.B Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 I was only at 45k and did mine. The front came out honey brown but the rear was darker than maple syrup. I'm glad I did it sooner rather than later. Timothy.B's 2011 LEGACY 3.6R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acumenhokie Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Is this a requirement? I have 62k on mine and haven't changed my diff fluid. I've never owned a car where I needed to do this service. Factory recommendation is to inspect it every 30k and replace as needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Is this a requirement? I have 62k on mine and haven't changed my diff fluid. I've never owned a car where I needed to do this service. That can't possibly be true...even FWD needs the trans fluid changed regularly which also lubes the diff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cww516 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 My old '99 Grand Am was sealed, no dipstick anywhere on the transmission. With automatics, it's sometimes a good idea to leave the fluid in there- as the clutches wear, that friction material ends up suspended in the fluid, and if you flush all that out, you can end up losing a lot of torque-holding capacity. Not the case with a manual transmission or a differential, where all you're lubricating is gears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojorios Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 That can't possibly be true...even FWD needs the trans fluid changed regularly which also lubes the diff. Every car my family has owned had never had tranny or differential fluid changed. We never bought a fresh new car, we got them all used. Some ran well 150k+ miles. Never had a tranny or engine go on us. My LGT is the first car I have ever kept up with the maintenance on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 My old '99 Grand Am was sealed, no dipstick anywhere on the transmission. With automatics, it's sometimes a good idea to leave the fluid in there- as the clutches wear, that friction material ends up suspended in the fluid, and if you flush all that out, you can end up losing a lot of torque-holding capacity. Not the case with a manual transmission or a differential, where all you're lubricating is gears. Every car my family has owned had never had tranny or differential fluid changed. We never bought a fresh new car, we got them all used. Some ran well 150k+ miles. Never had a tranny or engine go on us. My LGT is the first car I have ever kept up with the maintenance on. Just because you don't perform the maintenance doesn't mean it isn't required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojorios Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 I totally agree. I just never cared about beaters. That's why I try to baby the LGT. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N915A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 I would challenge anyone to find a manufacturer that claims there automatic transmission fluid gets better with age... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cww516 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 They're out there, hanging out with unicorns and the Loch Ness monster, I'm sure. I wasn't suggesting that it gets better, just that not replacing it past a certain point might be less worse than replacing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmmrdwn Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 My old '99 Grand Am was sealed, no dipstick anywhere on the transmission. With automatics, it's sometimes a good idea to leave the fluid in there- as the clutches wear, that friction material ends up suspended in the fluid, and if you flush all that out, you can end up losing a lot of torque-holding capacity. Not the case with a manual transmission or a differential, where all you're lubricating is gears. What about oil particles plugging tubes, passages, screens, etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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