rpmk104 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/08/7b4c2e8789ccba87b09de1a607bcafd1.jpg Will be attempting to install the outback suspension from a 3.6r into my gt. To be continued..... Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegacyZero Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Awaiting with bated breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Because Racecar Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Super intrigued. Why? Not judging, just curious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DugsSin Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 very cool project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpmk104 Posted August 9, 2015 Author Share Posted August 9, 2015 I do a lot of mountain biking. With the hitch, hitch rack, two bikes, misc gear, the rear suspension constantly bottoms out. Not to mention the saggy butt. The additional ground clearance helps in the snow northeast as well. This is why I went for the 3.6r outback suspension vs the regular 2.5. The 3.6r outback has stiffer Springs all around. I plan on getting a set of much bigger tires. Probably 235/55/18. With the 20mm spacers installed I think the bigger tires will fill up the wheel arches quite well. I'll be doing the swap tomorrow. I'll take some detailed pictures to document the procedure. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpmk104 Posted August 9, 2015 Author Share Posted August 9, 2015 I do a lot of mountain biking. With the hitch, hitch rack, two bikes, misc gear, the rear suspension constantly bottoms out. Not to mention the saggy butt. The additional ground clearance helps in the snow northeast as well. This is why I went for the 3.6r outback suspension vs the regular 2.5. The 3.6r outback has stiffer Springs all around. I plan on getting a set of much bigger tires. Probably 235/55/18. With the 20mm spacers installed I think the bigger tires will fill up the wheel arches quite well. I'll be doing the swap tomorrow. I'll take some detailed pictures to document the procedure. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk A before picture of my car with 225/55/17s. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/08/f0dec6f542311e0eeccda87ace8936eb.jpg Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVAKeith Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Did you go with the 2010-2012 or 2013-2014 suspension? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpmk104 Posted August 9, 2015 Author Share Posted August 9, 2015 2012, I bought the set off an outback owner who did the reverse swap (gt into outback). Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee199969 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Not sure if its the same with the outbacks, but the 2013-14 legacy has stiffer springs My "Build" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVAKeith Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Not sure if its the same with the outbacks, but the 2013-14 legacy has stiffer springs I think the Outback got stiffend up for 2013-2014 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Because Racecar Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Yes, very cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capttris Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 very excited to see how this comes out. I always like the older 3rd gen legacys with the high suspension! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpmk104 Posted August 10, 2015 Author Share Posted August 10, 2015 (edited) Just finished up the install... Too dark to take any pictures. But the car is a good 2-3 inches higher. Some observations, 1) the outback struts are approximately 2 inches longer. 2) the rear outback springs had one or two additional coil. So the rear outback Springs are longer. 3) rear upper control arms are very different between the gt and the outback. The camber will be way out of specs without the upper control arm swap. 4) Harbor freight ball joint extractor.... Life saver for getting the rear toe links off. Also needed an arm puller to get the upper arm off. 5) Rear toe links and trailing links are exactly the same between the outback and the gt. 6) the stock rear endlinks are barely long enough to fit. Might need to get ones made for the outback. 7) front struts are direct drop ins. No problems at all. Just had to push down the hub to fit the longer struts into the steering knuckle. 8) definitely need an alignment especially the rear since the camber and toe is way off. Definitely need the adjustable LCA to get the camber back into spec. Overall I am happy with the swap. I got a solid ~3 inch lift. The rear is slightly higher than the front, but that's perfect for me since I carry bikes on my hitch all the time. I can definitely tell that the suspension feels better dampened and stiffer with the 3.6r outback suspension. Does not feel floaty at all. I prefer the ride with the 3.6r outback suspension vs the stock gt suspension. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Edited August 10, 2015 by rpmk104 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarang Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Man I'd love some pics! I'd like to do the same myself... you know, when money and time grows on trees... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebo03 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Pretty cool rpmk104! Now your LGT is setup for your purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpmk104 Posted August 10, 2015 Author Share Posted August 10, 2015 I'll try to get some pictures tonight. Alignment is still way off... Scheduled and appointment this Saturday Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpmk104 Posted August 10, 2015 Author Share Posted August 10, 2015 I think if anyone wants a minor lift,you can definitely fit the outback Springs on the gt struts. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpmk104 Posted August 10, 2015 Author Share Posted August 10, 2015 I only have one crappy picturehttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/10/1ad2127ab60e2dbecb489d0fdf44e667.jpg Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpmk104 Posted August 10, 2015 Author Share Posted August 10, 2015 Still need to put the 20mm spacers in Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebo03 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Those teeny, tiny wheels/tires! Good thing you plan on going with taller tires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpmk104 Posted August 10, 2015 Author Share Posted August 10, 2015 Yep it looks pretty bad right now lol... The stock gt wheels already look very narrow with the 55mm offset. The lift makes it look even worst Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpmk104 Posted August 11, 2015 Author Share Posted August 11, 2015 (edited) So some pictures of the install. 1) Gt vs outback front strut. Notice the difference in length and the outback spring has half an additional coil. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/10/61e0bb094e94c6a91b2adda66f6d33ed.jpg 2) gt vs outback rear. The outback spring has one more coil. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/10/aeb263c6319677ad802da13574ddb154.jpg 3) gt vs outback vs megan racing adjustable toe link. The gt and outback rear toe links are identical. The megan racing link weights the most but is also very beefy. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/10/b0c9951e1865cf8a4c58ec20381d0d9c.jpg 4) gt vs outback (red) vs j2 engineering adjustable rear lca. Gt and outback, identical. The J2 lca was the heaviest. The length of the stock lca, eyelid to eyelid is approximately 17.75". To get the rear camber any where near stock after the suspension swap, I needed to adjust the J2 lca to approximately 18.25". http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/10/13802a48bd851501a8640fcc1dc57fa8.jpg http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/10/ead15c35fca892054b668610a936091c.jpg 5) rear upper control arms. Gt on the right and outback on the left. The gt arm has a lot more upward curvature to it. The location of ball joint is also at a different angle. Additional the gt abs line bracket which attaches to the upper arms are slightly different. Needed to drill a new hole to reattach to the outback upper arms. The Gt upper control arm slightly heavier than the outback arm. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/10/a2a58a6a09ae0b2a8800d270ecc5afda.jpg http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/10/8accfcd2f4b46592f3a97f1e0186f9cc.jpg 6) all parts installed. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/10/152ab54c508db30dd2181be868b5a6bd.jpg If I reused the stock Lca and the non adjustable toe links, I will probably end up with massive toe in and massive positive camber in the rear. Still no pictures of the car yet... Will install the 20mm spacers in the next few days. Scheduled an appointment for alignment this Saturday. Let's see how off my alignment is. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Edited August 11, 2015 by rpmk104 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBPeik Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Very nice write up. Thanks Can't wait to see the pics My someday I will be done with it thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Wow! fantastic information! Great job! GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpmk104 Posted August 11, 2015 Author Share Posted August 11, 2015 http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/11/6f37333642f62edd20611bd75e0eec74.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/11/48389ec6bed83ec0bcb1df4945a799d2.jpg Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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