Humble Rumble Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 I was definitely finding the limits of my current tires' grip on this last track day. 2012 Legacy 3.6R Build Thread 5th Gen Legacy BM/BR Body Kit Compendium Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik94087 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Yes, Fred ran 275/40-17 on a 17x9+45 wheel on Shrek IIRC. Those were falken rt615k which are just a hair narrow compared to other 275s. That made them sit better on a 9" wheel without a lot of slop. The tires also have a decent sidewall. For example, NT01 runs a tad wider. Those tires were not as good on my 9" wheel as they should have been. The car would get a little squirly. I am getting a similar effect with the Q50. My 265 tires on 9" wheel. Today, those tires are going on a 9.5" wheel. It doesn't help that they don't have a very good sidewall as they bulge a tiny bit more than 275 615ks on a 9" wheel. They are Michelin pilot sport 4s. If I still get some slop, I will have to bite the bullet and go for a lower UTQG rated tire with a stiffer sidewall or I will have to look at a "wide" 245 or 255. I ran a 255/40/17 615k at Laguna Seca...remember, it is a narrow tire, acceleration was not easily measured. It made about a 1 to 2mph difference at top end going over turn 1. But, the 275s had more grip. Long story short, if you run a 275/40/17 on a 9" wheel, make sure it is a narrow tire...else, run a 255/40/17 that runs wide. With your 3.6R, my first recommendation is to run at least a 10w40 on track days, and if you get stickier rubber, find someone to make you a custom baffle for you don't want to have oil starvation and boom! There is so much to share even with my very limited experience. I'm sure there are several guys on here who have a lot more to share. "It's within spec" - SOA "Depth is only shallowness viewed from the side." - Fredism "So, how much did it cost for your car to be undriveable ." - Stephen (very close friend) "You have done so much it would be stupid to go back." - Sunny of Guru Electronics 2018Q50RS | 2015WrxThread | Shrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 ^^ I was gonna mention possible oiling issues at higher G loads. He may have more fun with less rubber and less chance of starving the motor of oil. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble Rumble Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 (edited) Enlighten me a bit further on what you mean by "custom baffle". I'm familiar with oil starvation and that the 3.6 can suffer from it on track days, but where/what are you suggesting I add a baffle to? Not quite sure on that term/application. I should state that my longterm goal is to eventually be able to outshine the local WRX/STI trackhogs in my 3.6R, though that's an expensive road to travel, so I'm working my way up bit by bit as I can afford. Edited September 14, 2018 by Humble Rumble 2012 Legacy 3.6R Build Thread 5th Gen Legacy BM/BR Body Kit Compendium Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 (edited) Oil pan baffle. Less tire width will teach you to be a better driver because it will force you to be smooth and keep the tire at the grip threshold from turn in all the way thru corner exit. It will make you efficiently fast. Whereas a wider tire will give you a false sense of carrying the most speed you can through the entire corner. Edited September 14, 2018 by GTEASER GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 I got my insurance bill for my 2009 Outback today. I was shocked that it was 40% less than my GT. My 2012 2.5i was about 15% less my GT. It is nice surprise, but I still not sure why the difference is so great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 I got my insurance bill for my 2009 Outback today. I was shocked that it was 40% less than my GT. My 2012 2.5i was about 15% less my GT. It is nice surprise, but I still not sure why the difference is so great.Since you are one driver with 2 cars, how do you have the miles split between the 2 cars? GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Since you are one driver with 2 cars, how do you have the miles split between the 2 cars? It is actually 3 vehicles one driver 1K on my Syclone (maximum of 2500 miles), I estimated 12k & 12k for this year on my Subaru's. I eventually think I will get both of them down closer to 10k miles per year and qualify for low mileage credits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Forgot about the Syclone. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubaboo Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 It is actually 3 vehicles one driver 1K on my Syclone (maximum of 2500 miles), I estimated 12k & 12k for this year on my Subaru's. I eventually think I will get both of them down closer to 10k miles per year and qualify for low mileage credits. You have a Syclone?? Cooooool! Any pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble Rumble Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Pulled my in-car footage from Subaru Speed Expo the other weekend. Got my fastest lap, as well as a 2-lap battle with a VA STI and a Nismo 370Z. I think I did a pretty decent job keeping up with them! Very pleased with how my car did, can't wait to do more track stuff. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sJzXb1VVG0]Subaru Speed Expo 2018 - Legacy 3.6R - 1:21.064 [ABCC North Course] - YouTube[/ame] [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LahldCoUMMk]ABCC North Course - Legacy 3.6R vs STI vs Nismo 370Z [subaru Speed Expo 2018] - YouTube[/ame] 2012 Legacy 3.6R Build Thread 5th Gen Legacy BM/BR Body Kit Compendium Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik94087 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 ^^^ uh oh...I think we have another addict here. Baffled oil pan and thicker oil. Transmission cooler. Race pads. "It's within spec" - SOA "Depth is only shallowness viewed from the side." - Fredism "So, how much did it cost for your car to be undriveable ." - Stephen (very close friend) "You have done so much it would be stupid to go back." - Sunny of Guru Electronics 2018Q50RS | 2015WrxThread | Shrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Fan Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Well done!!! Nice tight lines all the way around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 You have a Syclone?? Cooooool! Any pics? Here are few and video at the drag strip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubaboo Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 ^thanks for the pics and vid! Very cool truck, I'd love one of those or a Typhoon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Wait...is your Syclone AWD? GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubaboo Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 ^I believe the Syclone and Typhoon are all AWD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creep_nu Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 you're right scuba, the sonoma gt was the 2wd version, though considerably toned down since it wasn't turbo'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herda2448 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 It’s been a while since I wrote in here. I am looking for some advice on a decent maker of a serpentine belt. If anybody has any quick input. Please let me know. 2012 2.5i 6mt Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creep_nu Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I've had friends have issues with aftermarket serpentine belts on the 2.5, they tend to squeal since they're just a short and curly too long. Going OEM always fixes the problem, so I'd recommend just hitting the dealership or grabbing an OE one online. Just my experience... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubaboo Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Lots of decent belt makers, Goodyear makes em, Continental Contitech who also makes BMW and Mercedes belts, Bando, Mitsuboshi is OEM for Mitsubishi and a lot of Japanese manufacturers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubaboo Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 you're right scuba, the sonoma gt was the 2wd version, though considerably toned down since it wasn't turbo'd Yup I think so, and VERY toned down! IIRC those beasts were 4 and something seconds to 60mph trucks from the factory, in the early '90s! WRX's of the time were 6.5 second cars lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creep_nu Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 yeah those trucks were insane. I'm not a truck guy in the slightest, but god i'd rock the crap out of one of those beasts in a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amusa Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 My local Subaru got back to me and quoted me $1,695 to add a engine remote starter to my 2013 Legacy 2.5i Prem. I know the part is not more then $300 but DAM that's one expensive labor, I'm going to be sick. I'm waiting (2) more Subaru dealership to get me prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Wait...is your Syclone AWD? Yes, it is AWD. The AWD is implemented with a Viscous Coupler (like Legacy 6MT) with 35:65 Planetary Gear set (like the 5EAT rearward torque split). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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