xt2005bonbon Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 ok ok, I think I already know the answer but I am NOT 100% sure yet. I did search through the forum and there was no clear official reason as to explain the result of my equation... So far, I can understand why the smell would come from the diffs. But can it also come from the clutch? If so, why since the latter is indeed engaged? Is it because that sucker is slipping even though it is engaged? That'd mean that the engine is too strong for it?? This happened to me last weekend. I was not doing donuts though. I was just going straight, about 20 mph, on a snowy messy and bumpy dirt road which had a foot of snow. So I was kinna gunning it in first gear (I think) and staying around 4-5000 rpms to keep momentum. And then it started to stink when I went to a stop. I thought it was our lovely clutch smell..but could have been diffs though---can't tell the difference in smell. Anyway, looking forward to hear the official reasons to the result of my equation . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users seabass07 Posted December 1, 2010 Mega Users Share Posted December 1, 2010 Snow and donuts will not usually make your clutch slip. There is very little torque on the clutch since the surface is slippery. If you have a slipping clutch, then test it in 3rd gear. You will make a lot more torque in 3rd at peak torque on a dry road. If it is the clutch, then it must be severely worn out to slip in 1st gear in snow. As for the smell...probably something else...maybe it is the diff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted December 1, 2010 Author Share Posted December 1, 2010 thanks for your feedback. so you vote YES for diffs, NO for clutch. Though now I do recall the same kinna clutch smell when I was also playing with my previous 99 outback in the snow a year ago. The clutch was new and rpms were high and donuts amount was high . Still smelled after playing hard. I am interested to hear lots of opinion. Maybe I should create a poll.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSpeed Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 I smelt the same thing when I was doing donuts in the snow. no way it was the clutch slipping- minimal traction in the snow (I've been at a dry track several times since then and if my clutch was weak, I would have found out then). I chalked it up to the diff... That is not based on anything scientific. The last time I changed my diff fluid it was prestine- that made me feel a lot better and I'll be sure to do some more donuts then next time i find a snowy parking lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stang70Fastback Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 I get the same smell... it's from my power steering pump which leaks fluid all over the front of my engine, the belt and the exhaust where it burns away in a big mess of smoke, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users seabass07 Posted December 1, 2010 Mega Users Share Posted December 1, 2010 Interesting...if it was diff, it would be at least varnishing the oil. It wouldn't be clear. Too bad I don't have any snow here or I'd test it out and see if my auto does it. Maybe if I find a grass field after it rains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeblow Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Belts maybe? Running at higher rpms will have the pulleys spinning faster and might cause some burning smell from the belts. It's cool; I'm with the band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homemade WRX Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 when doing donuts DO NOT hold the power steering at full lock!!! it keeps trying to work and you'll cook it! Seen too many people do it who don't understand how power steering works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestratomaster Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 i get the smell too. always just assumed it was the clutch...hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users seabass07 Posted December 1, 2010 Mega Users Share Posted December 1, 2010 Unless you're riding the clutch...but I doubt that since it's snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnout8488 Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Why has noone mentioned tires? Tires still stink even when doing donuts in the snow. (snownuts?) Happens to me every year when I play in the snow. The tires break through to the pavement a little bit when spinning and cause the stench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTTuner Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 when doing donuts DO NOT hold the power steering at full lock!!! it keeps trying to work and you'll cook it! Seen too many people do it who don't understand how power steering works. This^^^^^^, I've also heard of some rear diff failures doing snownuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmx045 Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 it's the smell of cash flowing out of your pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Why has noone mentioned tires? Tires still stink even when doing donuts in the snow. (snownuts?) Happens to me every year when I play in the snow. The tires break through to the pavement a little bit when spinning and cause the stench. he said dirt road. I vote diffs getting hot My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users seabass07 Posted December 1, 2010 Mega Users Share Posted December 1, 2010 Would the diffs stink like that though? The thread is called snow-donuts... But still tires have a very distinct smell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Diffs dont smell. they are closed units. its either tires or clutch and both have very different and unique smells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz98gt Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 I had a bad smell after some snownuts last year...4EAT, completely covered parking lot (never broke through to the tarmac, there was also hardpack of snow/ice under the powder), nothing leaking thru the p/s (checked it after because I thought it was this)...so where does it point? Center clutch? Diff? Interesting to think that you could get the clutch to slip though for a manual...let us know what you find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 its probably the smell of snow and dirt melting and cooking on the exhaust. as i said, the diffs are sealed units. you would not smell anything from them unless they were leaking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz98gt Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 When I put new fluid in them over the summer, they didn't look like they were leaking, and AHHH I never thought about the exhaust! Good call...that would definitely do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Diffs have breathers on them My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTTuner Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 it's the smell of cash flowing out of your pocket. nice quote and most likely true If it is from the diffs, gear oil has a distinct smell you cannot forget or confuse with anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homemade WRX Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Diffs dont smell. they are closed units. its either tires or clutch and both have very different and unique smells. That would be incorrect. They are both open to atmosphere...notice the small breather at the top of the trans and the breather (little plastic thing) on top of the rear diff cover. I do agree that a clutch and gear oil smell nothing alike though!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heedz Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 i get weird smells from going uphill at decent throttle probably the same smell kinda clutchy kinda geary kinda oily right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homemade WRX Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 clutch (organic face) = burnt celery (or what I'd imagine in smells like) gear oil = oh dear Lord, my nose hairs are cinged! rank smell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 i stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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