george-in-georgia Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I'm hoping someone here knows if replacement of the TPMS sensors are now mandatory when replacing tires . I do understand that for tire shops that it isn't too difficult to damage them , and by law they can't release the car until it is then replaced . They can't even temporarily put in a old style valve stem . But my local tire store told my son that as of Oct 2016 that they are required by law , issued by NHTSA , to replace the sensors merely when changing the tires ( on his Altima ) . I can't find any mention of such a law on line . Any facts ? Thanks George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATS4LIFE Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 If the sensors are bad then yes it needs to be replaced,usually tire shop will offer if u want the seal kit to be replaced but it's up to u if u want to,I usually have seals replaced when I buy new tires or wheels.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 They shouldn't be replacing the sensors themselves with every tire change, only the seal. They sometimes call it a "rebuild" kit. The sensors themselves should last a good 10 years or more before the battery runs out. A set of decent quality sensors costs $100-$200. I had tires put on my Legacy last February and 2 tires put on my wife's BRZ in September and we didn't need new sensors. There is no such NHTSA law. I suppose it could be a recall on the OEM equipped TPMS sensors on his specific car model. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_l_s Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 The law only requires the system to be working. If the batteries aren't dead then there's no need to replace. Lighting Mods: $10 Footwell Illumination | Tail as Turn | Fog as DRL Diode Dynamics C-Lights | RX350 Bi-Xenon Retrofit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08SpecB_DE Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 If you have the rubber stem tpms sensor there is no seal kit to replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I don't see that there's a need to replace the sensors when replacing tires, but it depends on the age of the tire and the estimated lifetime on the new tire combined with the estimated lifetime of the sensor. And if you have summer and winter tires you can have a complete set of wheels with cloned sensors. Tire shops works after the "better safe than sorry" perspective and will rather replace the sensors than be held responsible for an accident due to a sensor that has run out of battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laz Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 This sounds like a shop is overt eager to make an extra buck. They can't force you to do anything you don't want. If they are too pushy head over to the next shop. --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkshooter Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 A dead battery in a wheel sensor can cause an auto accident? Wow, how did we ever get by without them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgtftw Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 This sounds like a shop is overt eager to make an extra buck. Yep, there's no need to replace the sensor, the sensor is screwed to the stem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTG Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Hate crap like this. You buy a $100 tire then they add bunch of other junk to rip you off. I take my wheels to a buddy who works at a car dealer and we just install the tires ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtdog Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I just got new tires for my Tacoma in November. New TPMS valves were not installed. The Sams club guy said as long as the system is working they do not change out the units. They have a "rebuild" kit for $ 5 per tire if it is needed. The tire place is just trying to take money from your son Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seang86s Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I just got new tires for my Tacoma in November. New TPMS valves were not installed. The Sams club guy said as long as the system is working they do not change out the units. They have a "rebuild" kit for $ 5 per tire if it is needed. The tire place is just trying to take money from your son Exactly what Costco told me when I brought in my Outback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woony1990 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I heard sometimes mechanics break those sensitive sensors while popping out the tire, and just come up to you saying that the TPMS has to be changed. I wonder if this is true.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08SpecB_DE Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I heard sometimes mechanics break those sensitive sensors while popping out the tire, and just come up to you saying that the TPMS has to be changed. I wonder if this is true.... It's very easy to break them if they aren't paying attention to what their doing. Other than that, it's a piece of cake. Only thing more dumb than a tire sensor is a car without a spare tire. It would be super easy for these car companies to read pressures through the wheel speed/abs sensors. Honda and Mazda have figured it out and Toyota used to do it that way before it was a law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_l_s Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 It's very easy to break them if they aren't paying attention to what their doing. Other than that, it's a piece of cake. Only thing more dumb than a tire sensor is a car without a spare tire. It would be super easy for these car companies to read pressures through the wheel speed/abs sensors. Honda and Mazda have figured it out and Toyota used to do it that way before it was a law. On the current Accord all you have to do is initialize the system so it can get a size via rpm reading when switching summer/winter. No batteries to die, no sensors to break...must be nice. Lighting Mods: $10 Footwell Illumination | Tail as Turn | Fog as DRL Diode Dynamics C-Lights | RX350 Bi-Xenon Retrofit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTG Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 On the current Accord all you have to do is initialize the system so it can get a size via rpm reading when switching summer/winter. No batteries to die, no sensors to break...must be nice. Our 2002 MINI is the same way! TPMS are not necessary and the system works just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08SpecB_DE Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 On the current Accord all you have to do is initialize the system so it can get a size via rpm reading when switching summer/winter. No batteries to die, no sensors to break...must be nice. My point exactly. It's just another way for them to dig in our pockets. $2 for a rubber valve stem or $100 for a tpms sensor. Someone got rich because of that tpms design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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