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Well here's a little bit of an update... I've been looking for a different car and I have it down to either an Infiniti G37 or an Acura TSX/TL. Subaru said they'd give us $1,000 which is peanuts compared to the repair cost of $2,800. The dealership that we bought the car from Brand New said they can give us $500, which is disgraceful! Apparently the most that this dealership *could* cover is $2,200, but even then I do not think I should be paying for a defect in an engine. We'll see what Subaru does, as well as the dealership. I really might just trade this car in and get something nicer, it's become such a headache.
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Did you ever degrease the engine and then inspect it after a bit to see where it’s actually leaking from?

 

Also, you may want to try changing brands of oil. I used to run Mobil 1 in my EJ25D and the thing seeped oil from everywhere. I switched to Castrol and it stopped. Also, Lubrimoly — I’ve been using that for years in my German cars — recently started adding a UV dye to some of their oils. If you shine a UV flashlight on it, it glows green. It’s not significantly more expensive than any other good synthetic oils. Might help you more easily trace the leaks.

 

Once you really know where it’s leaking from, you’ll know what you really have to do to take care of it.

 

 

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Subaru is now going to repair my car free of charge. On June 8th I will take the car in and they'll replace the headgaskets in addition to a few other things. After that I will sell my car and upgrade to something newer.
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So it was a blown headgasket, then? (they'll have to replace a ton of other stuff just getting down to the headgaskets, so most of the major "potential leakers" will be replaced) - new cars are always fun, but there is something to be said for a car that's paid off, and has had one of the major problem issues dealt with free of charge... really happy to hear Subaru came through.
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Subaru is now going to repair my car free of charge. On June 8th I will take the car in and they'll replace the headgaskets in addition to a few other things. After that I will sell my car and upgrade to something newer.

 

 

That’s good news! You’ll have to let us know what you end up with, particularly if it’s something extra interesting!

 

 

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That’s good news! You’ll have to let us know what you end up with, particularly if it’s something extra interesting!

 

 

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Yah I've got to sell the car after it's fixed so I'm not sure how long it'll take. I'm hoping to either get an Infiniti or an Acura. Something quick but also nice :lol:

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So it was a blown headgasket, then? (they'll have to replace a ton of other stuff just getting down to the headgaskets, so most of the major "potential leakers" will be replaced) - new cars are always fun, but there is something to be said for a car that's paid off, and has had one of the major problem issues dealt with free of charge... really happy to hear Subaru came through.

 

Yah from my understanding it's on one side of the engine (where the oil flows). Obviously if it was an issue with coolant then the engine would be in severe shape. I wonder if Subaru will ever fix their headgasket issues & Oil Consumption Issues. For example, I keep reading that the Crosstrek burns oil...

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Yah from my understanding it's on one side of the engine (where the oil flows). Obviously if it was an issue with coolant then the engine would be in severe shape. I wonder if Subaru will ever fix their headgasket issues & Oil Consumption Issues. For example, I keep reading that the Crosstrek burns oil...
It's a common complaint on new cars because of thinner oils used for efficiency. Honda, Toyota, Acura, Chevy, Dodge, Ford, all of them have lawsuits for the same issue. Type into your search bar "oil burning lawsuit" and then whatever make you want you'll see. Kind of funny your getting the car fixed and still want to ditch it for another used car which could very likely end you up on the wrong side of another enormous repair bill. I would keep it until the the repair warranty was up.

 

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$1000 as trade in on a car with 88k miles? It would take every bit of self control to not cuss that guy out if it was me. Its nice that they are doing it for free. Stack up your money and drive it until the warranty is done. It would be cheaper to have them replace the chain and guides now if you plan on keeping it but that doesnt seem to be the case.
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$1000 as trade in on a car with 88k miles? It would take every bit of self control to not cuss that guy out if it was me. Its nice that they are doing it for free. Stack up your money and drive it until the warranty is done. It would be cheaper to have them replace the chain and guides now if you plan on keeping it but that doesnt seem to be the case.

 

Lmao it turns out they would have given me $1,000 to a NEW Subaru. I originally misunderstood it. I am not planning on keeping the car, and the warranty for the drivetrain runs out at 100k miles so I will dump the car now while it's still available.

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It's a common complaint on new cars because of thinner oils used for efficiency. Honda, Toyota, Acura, Chevy, Dodge, Ford, all of them have lawsuits for the same issue. Type into your search bar "oil burning lawsuit" and then whatever make you want you'll see. Kind of funny your getting the car fixed and still want to ditch it for another used car which could very likely end you up on the wrong side of another enormous repair bill. I would keep it until the the repair warranty was up.

 

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The problem with my car is I can tell it's gonna need to sold. I'm already having oil drip slowly, I guess the headgaskets are done, the CVT will go out after the warranty (it's known to happen), and I'm starting to hear something rattle in the middle of the car (I think it's the heat shield). My mother drove the car for 82k miles and garaged it that whole time, then I took it and that's right around when the car started getting the oil issues. I literally only drove it to high school and back, and on road trips. I baby the car to death and it's just getting worse at 89k miles now. I could sell the car for around $8k, and get a car that I love like an 08 Acura TL Type-S for somewhere around the same price and be super happy with the power output.

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It makes sense to get out of it now but those Acuras are known for oil consumption and transmission issues as well, so do your homework before buying.

 

Lol I've been glued to my computer doing research since the whole "quarantine" started. I'm obviously going to be weighing out my options and trying to find the best deal for the best condition. It's just a matter of being at the right place at the right time.

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if you can find a 3rd gen type s with a manual you'll be in good shape. i don't know if we just got a good engine, or if it's because my dad took excellent care of the car, but my 2nd gen type s doesn't burn a lick of oil after 190k miles. minor seepage on the front valve cover, but that's meh. if you do get the auto just make sure to change that trans fluid often. after getting this one rebuilt we've changed the fluid every 15k miles and it's run like a champ for the last 60k...more than can be said for the last 3 transmissions that were in it...3rd gen trans is supposed to be far superior, but still needs that maintenance. just make SURE you use OEM fluid. honda ATs do not play well with generic fluid.

 

those TLs are peaches though, and that J series is a lovely engine. sounds great and will catch people by surprise with its pep, even still 15 years on...

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if you can find a 3rd gen type s with a manual you'll be in good shape. i don't know if we just got a good engine, or if it's because my dad took excellent care of the car, but my 2nd gen type s doesn't burn a lick of oil after 190k miles. minor seepage on the front valve cover, but that's meh. if you do get the auto just make sure to change that trans fluid often. after getting this one rebuilt we've changed the fluid every 15k miles and it's run like a champ for the last 60k...more than can be said for the last 3 transmissions that were in it...3rd gen trans is supposed to be far superior, but still needs that maintenance. just make SURE you use OEM fluid. honda ATs do not play well with generic fluid.

 

those TLs are peaches though, and that J series is a lovely engine. sounds great and will catch people by surprise with its pep, even still 15 years on...

 

Yah I am not even going to touch the 2nd gen. I've read that the Automatic tranny goes out on them very quickly. The third gen tranny can push close to 200k IF taken care of very well. Obviously since I will be buying a used car with either 1 or 2 owners, I can't fully tell how well a car was fully taken care of and only by the way it looks and feels.

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yeah if this wasn't a family car that got passed down and i knew the exact history on it, wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. good luck on your search, i know someone else on here traded out of their GT into a manual SH-AWD 4th gen TL and loves it. if acura made interesting cars anymore they'd be my next go-to(though the new TLX type-s has me salivating...maybe in 10 years when it's depreciated enough to be affordable...)
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Little bit of an update: My Step-Father took my car to the Subaru dealership in the early morning, and they gave him a loaner car (Subaru Forester). From my understanding they are pulling the whole engine out, and they will be re-sealing the whole engine all together. It's going to be free of charge for us, and Subaru will be paying the dealership to do the job ($2,800). The person who has been in contact with us from the Subaru Headquarters said that the diagnosis originally given to us from the dealership is not 100% accurate. The way I see it Subaru is actually doing a bit more for us then the original diagnosis, which is cool. Like I said earlier I will be selling the car after the repairs are done. I've got my eyes on either a 2012-2013 Infiniti G37X, an Acura TL (preferably a 2007-2008), Acura TSX, or Acura TLX. I might consider a Mercedes-Benz since my uncle has worked there for many years, but it would have to be an absolute PERFECT deal. Edited by Alexmed2002
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Little bit of an update: My Step-Father took my car to the Subaru dealership in the early morning, and they gave him a loaner car (Subaru Forester). From my understanding they are pulling the whole engine out, and they will be re-sealing the whole engine all together. It's going to be free of charge for us, and Subaru will be paying the dealership to do the job ($2,800). The person who has been in contact with us from the Subaru Headquarters said that the diagnosis originally given to us from the dealership is not 100% accurate. The way I see it Subaru is actually doing a bit more for us then the original diagnosis, which is cool. Like I said earlier I will be selling the car after the repairs are done. I've got my eyes on either a 2012-2013 Infiniti G37X, an Acura TL (preferably a 2007-2008), Acura TSX, or Acura TLX. I might consider a Mercedes-Benz since my uncle has worked there for many years, but it would have to be an absolute PERFECT deal.

 

 

Even though it’ll likely be a great car, a Benz will be a difficult car to own if you’re not used to regularly throwing money at it for maintenance. European cars are much more sensitive to maintenance than Japanese cars are and much of the maintenance is pricy comparatively, even if you do it yourself. Maintenance usually happens more often, and parts are about 20% more expensive. For instance, a friend of mine bought a ‘13 C350 4Matic Sport. It wasn’t clear that all the maintenance had been done, so had asked Mercedes how much that wanted to change the transmission fluid and filter, flush the brake fluid, and do an alignment. They asked $1700 for that. He ended up getting a local Euro specialist to do it for about $800. If it were my car, I would have considered doing most of it myself, but know full well that changing the transmission fluid and filter involves replacing the transmission pan and would still have set me back probably $500 in parts and supplies. Also, most shops around here (a not large but not small city in Central NY) basically hung up on my friend as soon as he asked about getting his car aligned. Apparently, Mercedes has a pretty involved procedure for alignment.

 

This is all on what’s considered a very reliable car in the grand scheme of modern German sport sedans. It’d all be far worse if you bought something more complicated like a E or S with air ride suspension or a V12. Or, heaven forbid, you properly lost your mind and ended up with something AMG.

 

I’m not saying you shouldn’t buy a Benz, particularly if it’s a good deal. I’m saying you should make sure you really dig into what it’s like to own.

 

This is coming from a guy who made a habit out of buying German iron and really should regret it. I don’t, but that doesn’t mean I’m not crazy. It also doesn’t mean my remaining German isn’t sitting busted in my garage *this exact instant* either...

 

 

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Even though it’ll likely be a great car, a Benz will be a difficult car to own if you’re not used to regularly throwing money at it for maintenance. European cars are much more sensitive to maintenance than Japanese cars are and much of the maintenance is pricy comparatively, even if you do it yourself. Maintenance usually happens more often, and parts are about 20% more expensive. For instance, a friend of mine bought a ‘13 C350 4Matic Sport. It wasn’t clear that all the maintenance had been done, so had asked Mercedes how much that wanted to change the transmission fluid and filter, flush the brake fluid, and do an alignment. They asked $1700 for that. He ended up getting a local Euro specialist to do it for about $800. If it were my car, I would have considered doing most of it myself, but know full well that changing the transmission fluid and filter involves replacing the transmission pan and would still have set me back probably $500 in parts and supplies. Also, most shops around here (a not large but not small city in Central NY) basically hung up on my friend as soon as he asked about getting his car aligned. Apparently, Mercedes has a pretty involved procedure for alignment.

 

This is all on what’s considered a very reliable car in the grand scheme of modern German sport sedans. It’d all be far worse if you bought something more complicated like a E or S with air ride suspension or a V12. Or, heaven forbid, you properly lost your mind and ended up with something AMG.

 

I’m not saying you shouldn’t buy a Benz, particularly if it’s a good deal. I’m saying you should make sure you really dig into what it’s like to own.

 

This is coming from a guy who made a habit out of buying German iron and really should regret it. I don’t, but that doesn’t mean I’m not crazy. It also doesn’t mean my remaining German isn’t sitting busted in my garage *this exact instant* either...

 

 

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I only have my eye on either a 2012-2014 C300 Sport or a GLK 350, but like I said earlier it would have to be an absolute perfect deal with low mileage.

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I only have my eye on either a 2012-2014 C300 Sport or a GLK 350, but like I said earlier it would have to be an absolute perfect deal with low mileage.

 

 

Fair enough! Just wanted to make sure you were aware of what you might have been wading into.

 

 

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I picked up my car today. I was dissapointed to see that the Subaru dealership didn't even clean my car. They didn't wash the outside or the inside at all... plus there was no plastic to cover the seat or steering wheel. There also wasn't any of those paper floor mats that they always put in your car when it's being serviced. My mother's Infiniti gets washed and cleaned for free with each oil change and has the plastic on the seat & steering wheel + papar floor mats, but oh well. My car got a crap ton of work done to the engine, and I attached pictures of what was done. It was a $2,400 job (400 less than what was originally quoted). They didn't fully clean the engine bay either, only the areas where they took the engine out and such. They ended up changing the coolant and oil since they had to pull the engine out of the chassis. I guess I can't complain since Subaru is paying the full amount, but it just shows you how little the dealership I went to cares about its customers. They didn't even remove the old oil change sticker on the top left of my windshield... :confused:

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I've had times where the dealership didn't wash the car. The dealers are more independent than other larger manufacturers, so some are better than others. Hopfully they sealed everything up. The next owner should have a leak free car for quite a while.
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I've had times where the dealership didn't wash the car. The dealers are more independent than other larger manufacturers, so some are better than others. Hopfully they sealed everything up. The next owner should have a leak free car for quite a while.

 

Yah they should be able to get 100k miles without any issues, until the CVT says otherwise lol. There's another Subaru dealership that I go to that is WAY better than this one.

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