KRYPTO Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 What's your thoughts on each kit, Grimmspeed Crawford IAG Other retain OEM PCV system with an AOS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shralp Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 In my experience, street car, stage 1 or 2 ish, just stick with a (properly working) OEM system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmP6889928 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 NO AOS on street car-completely unnecessary. PCV works perfectly when it's working correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mondtster Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 PCV systems on turbo cars are always a compromise to satisfy emissions constraints. If emissions is not a concern I’d remove the whole system and vent to atmosphere. Your choice whether or not to run it through an oil separator. At a MINIMUM, you need to make sure the PCV valve will actually seal under boost. Otherwise you’re pressurizing the crankcase with boost pressure and making your problems worse. The turbo Subaru PCV system is one of the worst I’ve seen, but oh so typical of a production turbo car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzr750r1 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I'm all for diverting any oil from the intake. Changing to GS AOS stopped my issue of occasional smoking on startup. It was an experiment that seems to have worked. I have a new PCV assembly to install as well next OC. GS was the least problematic to revert back to stock every two years, because California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homedepotmade Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 I know the IAG and Perrin AOS retains the oem PCV for us Californians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithcraft Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Stage 2 and when I pulled the TMIC there was a bit of oil in the outlet area. I went with and IAG AOS. Hopefully it's not going to have an oil build up in the old side of the "cold" side of the intake. Also, at PIA, when you mention something they don't care for, they'll talk you out of it. They had no problem with the AOS. SC 1994 Legacy MI 2008 Legacy GT specB 2023 Crosstrek Limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 I have one on the wagon, but not going to both putting one the Spec B. Got a SG Motorsports one from a group buy back in the day. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzr750r1 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I know the IAG and Perrin AOS retains the oem PCV for us Californians. Still wouldn't pass a visual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRYPTO Posted January 2, 2019 Author Share Posted January 2, 2019 Read about some people using an electric vacuum pump such as ones on the supercharged mustangs and even the gran national groups using old smog pumps converted into a vacuum pump for forced induction applications Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VespaGTS Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 The newer Crawford systems retain the PCV system. FWIW They also have a great sale in spring each year. Old system was a bitch to install but works perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkey Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=flatirons+pcv Flatirons has done some really good research into these topics. About an hours worth of video from their track session and catch can blackstone test. Interesting little side note, IAG says: Less than 600 WHP on pump gas – IAG recommends the Competition Series AOS Less than 600 WHP on E85 – IAG recommends the Street Series AOS Greater than 600 WHP on E85 / PUMP GAS / RACE GAS – IAG recommends the Competition Series AOS which seems to imply that the fuel type and HP may affect your choice. Overall I think Crawford and IAG are the best because they heat the can which is beneficial. However in a quick look at the crawford they said they mount to the TGV's and dont work with after market TGV's. So mounting location may come into play as well - IAG seems to have more options. 05' LGT, ZFD Built 5MT, Stage 2 Cryotune 91/E85, 170,000mi running BRotella T6 and Ecoguard S4615 filters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzr750r1 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Issue I had with IAG was mounting location and relocating main loop wire harness. Not something that would be easy to revert for the visual needed to keep the car registered in this state. Otherwise it was the best option of most looked at. I did replace the PCV last weekend. Even with the GS AOS was seeing the breather lines sweating. Keep in mid these hoses are the Free Range Racing silicone hoses so probably not a real high quality materials... Funny though these are the only hoses fro that kit that seem suspect. All the other vac and coolant hoses have held up well. Have to pull all of this gear to go back to stock in the near future. Once that's over I can go stage 2 for a couple years at a time. Unless I get tired of this madness and sell the car and go back to stock to sell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRYPTO Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 I'm really learning towards an electric vac pump setup, but the iag system looks to be the better option out of all other aos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apexi Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Be careful with them, especially since you mention being from MN. https://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/psa-reminder-frozen-aos-cans-249965.html?t=249965 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazsmir Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 So I have a tuned spec.B putting down 260hp/290tq at the wheels. I'm experiencing a pretty good amount of blow-by, as I'm loosing oil at a higher rate than I'd like; no leaks, no smoke, but I'm running through oil between changes, so I'd like to get an AOS. The tune has her pushing 19psi with Cobb Intake & AP, 3" turbo back exhaust, VF46, AVO top mounted intercooler. Based on the comments above would I be better off with the IAG Comp or IAG Street? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORULZleggy Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 So I have a tuned spec.B putting down 260hp/290tq at the wheels. I'm experiencing a pretty good amount of blow-by, as I'm loosing oil at a higher rate than I'd like; no leaks, no smoke, but I'm running through oil between changes, so I'd like to get an AOS. The tune has her pushing 19psi with Cobb Intake & AP, 3" turbo back exhaust, VF46, AVO top mounted intercooler. Based on the comments above would I be better off with the IAG Comp or IAG Street? This is missing the Radium Engineering unit (Which I have going on my car). I kept asking what to get on here and I got many different answers. When I called the shop last week I had my eye on Radium Engineering, when he said "if you can spare the coin for Radium Engineering" I bought it. Along with more stuff they have. TOP NOTCH quality!! He did mention Crawford which I had on my 09 WRX. If your pockets are nice go Radium Engineering. Just my .02 cents. I am a saver and I want the best for this legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithcraft Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 As a follow up to my prior comment, when they were looking things over the last time I was there, they did comment that the AOS was doing it's job, as in there was no oil in the cool side of the TMIC. So, I'd still go with the IAG since it's kept warm by the coolant so it shouldn't clog up. SC 1994 Legacy MI 2008 Legacy GT specB 2023 Crosstrek Limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazsmir Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Thanks SC. I reached out to IAG about their systems and since I’m considering going E85/Flex down the road, they advised I stick with their street system, so I went ahead and ordered it and it should arrive Monday. Thanks to all that contributed to this post! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzr750r1 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Following back up on this... I had to pull the GS back off for California. While off yep the smoking at startup is back. However what is interesting that the car was starting to run rough. It's running much better now without the GS TMIC, Cobb BOV and GS AOS. I suspect the hose route may have started a little blockage for the head venting. Will do this a different way next time. Not any time soon though. Have plenty of other things to take care of first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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