TruNoLies Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 I’m getting this weird noise now around 1800 and 2500rpms where it sounds like a rattling when accelerating. Back in the day I believe it was called dieseling a sound that came when cheap gas was used. I have only been using Shell 89 and at times when it was affordable 93. Anyone have any ideas or suggestions please. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 First thing that gives a rattle is a heat shield that's loose somewhere. Check that and exhaust clamps. Go around and look for other parts that aren't tied down correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilot1226 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 I had issues with my Outback. Turned out i had cracks in the mid pipe. Peek around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Dieseling is when a gas engine runs away under compression. You can turn the motor off but it keeps running because the fuel is igniting under compression rather than igniting due to spark. "Striving to better, oft we mar what's well." - Bill Shakespeare - car modder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldguy Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Not the gas. Some of the more common sources of "rattle": 1. Transmission ground wire is touching the air box. 2. Muffler baffle weld has broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Not the gas. Some of the more common sources of "rattle": 1. Transmission ground wire is touching the air box. 2. Muffler baffle weld has broken. In my sloppy reading I first read "2. Muffler bearing..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruNoLies Posted May 8, 2018 Author Share Posted May 8, 2018 I will be taking it in hopefully over the weekendNot the gas. Some of the more common sources of "rattle": 1. Transmission ground wire is touching the air box. 2. Muffler baffle weld has broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crudzinskas Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Just wondering why you are using anything but 87 gas in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruNoLies Posted May 9, 2018 Author Share Posted May 9, 2018 Just wondering why you are using anything but 87 gas in the first place? I have to say i originally was using 87 but to me the car drove like crap 89 feels a lot better and 93 feels like better than that IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda_One Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 I have to say i originally was using 87 but to me the car drove like crap 89 feels a lot better and 93 feels like better than that IMO.OoooooK! Tell us what you really think! Laughing at oneself and with others is good for the Soul![emoji2] Laughing at Oneself and with Other is good for the Soul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ammcinnis Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 ... i originally was using 87 but ... 89 feels a lot better and 93 feels like better than that IMO. Of course. We all know that the butt-dyno never lies! Besides, what does Subaru know about the engines they design and build? "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there." ~ The Cheshire Cat (Alice in Wonderland) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCobbs Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Any update on this? I had a very similar rattle on my previous car which was 2.5i and it was the engine torque causing the bolts connected to the frame to loosen and rattle during accelaration. Mind you that a previous subaru service shop didn't tighten them properly after some other issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig01b Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Not dieseling..... pinging, knocking.... preignition. Caused by premature ignition of fuel. New cars with all the sensors, and electronic adjustment of the ignition, it’s pretty rare today...... lower octane fuel burns hotter than higher octane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securityguy Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Every manufacturer that builds cars will all tell you the same thing...if the car requires 87, using 89 or 93 will do NOTHING to make the car run any different and performance increases are nil. The car's engine and computer tuning are very specific to 87. By spending the extra money, your seat of the pants dyno makes "you" feel better. However, in reality, it doesn't make any difference...especially on a Subaru! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieN8 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Every manufacturer that builds cars will all tell you the same thing...if the car requires 87, using 89 or 93 will do NOTHING to make the car run any different and performance increases are nil. The car's engine and computer tuning are very specific to 87. By spending the extra money, your seat of the pants dyno makes "you" feel better. However, in reality, it doesn't make any difference...especially on a Subaru! Not true... I once put race fuel in mine, and my 0-60 time was 2.8sec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ammcinnis Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 ... I once put race fuel in mine, and my 0-60 time was 2.8sec. With an emphasis on "once"! Besides, nitromethane doesn't count ... especially when engine life must be measured in minutes! "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there." ~ The Cheshire Cat (Alice in Wonderland) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securityguy Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Not true... I once put race fuel in mine, and my 0-60 time was 2.8sec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoobaruSpud Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Every manufacturer that builds cars will all tell you the same thing...if the car requires 87, using 89 or 93 will do NOTHING to make the car run any different and performance increases are nil. The car's engine and computer tuning are very specific to 87. By spending the extra money, your seat of the pants dyno makes "you" feel better. However, in reality, it doesn't make any difference...especially on a Subaru! I'll tell you that my stock '01 Outback EJ25 pings under light load (uphill grade) in 5th gear running 87. When I run high octane it does not. I don't like engines that ping so I run higher octane in this car to avoid that. If it didn't ping I probably wouldn't bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoobaruSpud Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 One thing I noticed on my 01 Outback similar to what you describe was a rattle of the y-pipe heat shrouds. At about 1800 rpm I would get this metallic ratty hollow rattle, but only about that narrow rpm range. It might be something that applies to your Legacy - worth crawling underneath and doing some fist bumps and taps on parts to see about duplicating it. I also like to drive alongside concrete barriers (when it is safe to do so) to help amplify or reflect the sound so I can hear it more clearly. Good luck! I hate mystery squeaks and rattles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securityguy Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 I'll tell you that my stock '01 Outback EJ25 pings under light load (uphill grade) in 5th gear running 87. When I run high octane it does not. I don't like engines that ping so I run higher octane in this car to avoid that. If it didn't ping I probably wouldn't bother. You cannot compare a 2001 engines performance to that of a 2017-2018. The technology is far different today than that used 17 years ago. For a 2001, it may make total sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyVetMP Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Most of the time this issue is the Heat Shield on the Exhaust rattling. A simple fix. Get under the car, tap on the heat shielding until you find the loose sections, buy a couple Metal Pipe Clamps and tighten them down over the loose sections... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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