1astrokeit Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 im contemplating whether to do brembo swap front and rear or just get the sti brake booster, keep stock setup and just upgrade pads and rotors. anyone have any experience with brembos or the brake booster swap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spc2125 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Ive been in your position.. i think.. for the past couple weeks. I was hooked on getting a big brake kit and all. But i did more researching and posted on the forum about swapping and its a lot more involved for just bling. You would need the appropriate sized wheels/tires as well as the $200 bracket for the rears to convert. Or a full hub swap. Theres an article posted that big brake kits on a daily driver will not decrease the stopping distance. So if this is for a track car, then by all means go for it. The stoptech calipers are recommended over brembo, i believe. However, if its daily driver just go the route im going. I will be picking up some Techna SS braided lines, as well as a grimspeed master cylinder brace to help firm up the pedal. Goodluck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1astrokeit Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 Ive been in your position.. i think.. for the past couple weeks. I was hooked on getting a big brake kit and all. But i did more researching and posted on the forum about swapping and its a lot more involved for just bling. You would need the appropriate sized wheels/tires as well as the $200 bracket for the rears to convert. Or a full hub swap. Theres an article posted that big brake kits on a daily driver will not decrease the stopping distance. So if this is for a track car, then by all means go for it. The stoptech calipers are recommended over brembo, i believe. However, if its daily driver just go the route im going. I will be picking up some Techna SS braided lines, as well as a grimspeed master cylinder brace to help firm up the pedal. Goodluck! i was thinking about the booster swap and upgrading pads and rotors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spc2125 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 What i have been told is that most of the abuse is taken from the front brakes. So dont cheap out on those. DBA series rotors and stoptech or hps brand are respectable on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robitrice Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 do you track the car? if not just improve the pads and maybe get some stainless steel lines. Braking is great but the biggest upgrade in braking is having good tires. BBK's and crap tires is counter productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1astrokeit Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share Posted February 19, 2013 no i dont plan on tracking the car. i might do it here and there but not on a weekly basis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windy Road Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Do the booster and master cylinder swap first along with new pads, rotors, lines, and a fresh fluid change. You will feel a greater difference that way. I did all that and a front brembo swap on my car last year and I loved it. 276hp/347tq On a DynoJet Dyno Video - Had a big lean spot as you can tell in the second pull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1astrokeit Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share Posted February 19, 2013 Do the booster and master cylinder swap first along with new pads, rotors, lines, and a fresh fluid change. You will feel a greater difference that way. I did all that and a front brembo swap on my car last year and I loved it. ok ill try that. where at in langhorne are you located? im out there alot and dont see many lgts out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windy Road Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 ok ill try that. where at in langhorne are you located? im out there alot and dont see many lgts out there Near Neshaminy highschool, Neshaminy mall area. I'm on the edge of Trevose and Festerville. I hardly drive my lgt in the winter, well really this past year she sits a lot. Trying to keep the miles down, there's a few LGT's around here I don't see many either. 276hp/347tq On a DynoJet Dyno Video - Had a big lean spot as you can tell in the second pull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1astrokeit Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share Posted February 19, 2013 Any meets around this area? I dont really know of any around my area except where the ricers go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobyscoodle Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 +1 for fresh pads, fluid, ss lines, and rotors. Definitely do the sti booster/MC swap as well if you'd like a much more responsive brake pedal with reduced stroke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Don't take BBK advice from people who don't have BBK's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heedz Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I had Brembos in the front with stock rears, seems to have better temps and more linear braking. If I hadn't gotten the offer for them plus wheels and rotors... I probably would've ended up with just pads rotors lines and fluid. I drove like a mad man in the mtns. Never on the track though. My buddy who has an RS has over heated brembos and ended up with AP racing calipers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Did your buddy with the RS track the car or use track pads on the street? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heedz Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 DS2500 on street, track he tried EBC Reds, the 2500s and DTC 60s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1astrokeit Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 I had Brembos in the front with stock rears, seems to have better temps and more linear braking. If I hadn't gotten the offer for them plus wheels and rotors... I probably would've ended up with just pads rotors lines and fluid. I drove like a mad man in the mtns. Never on the track though. My buddy who has an RS has over heated brembos and ended up with AP racing calipers. Did you use stock sti rotors or slotted? Also did you do the sti master cylinder swap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 If you are going to swap to brembos (or any "bbk") you need to do the sti master swap. If you are not going to be using it on the track it doesnt matter what rotors you run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobyscoodle Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 You don't need to do the sti MC swap if you go to brembos, I just don't know why you wouldn't. Especially with a non-vdc car, since it's so easy. Without the proper tire though, the whole thing is pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Not if all you are trying to get is improved pedal feel and a cool look. Thats is what Brembo plus MC buy you for a pure street car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobyscoodle Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Brembos aren't needed on a street car at all, aside from looks; but whether you run them on the track with or without the sti MC you're still going to get the same increase in heat capacity, giving you increased fade resistance. When I added the MC/BB to my Brembo setup, the only difference was shorter pedal stroke and improved feel, it was an excellent and cheap mod, but not necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 OBXT need a brake upgrade. LGT need pad upgrade. The 2.5i brakes are not adequate for oem power of OBXT. I am running OEM lgt calipers and aftermarket rotors/pads on the OBXT. Thats kind of a bbk and was needed. Works like OEM The point of the master cyl is so that your antilock functions perfectly and properly without wierdness in the pedal or any surprises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobyscoodle Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 The point of the master cyl is so that your antilock functions perfectly and properly without wierdness in the pedal or any surprises. I just never noticed any difference there when I had the Brembos before or after the mc swap. I saw that you've got the stoptechs on the lgt now, that thing sure came out beautifully and I'm sure is a beast on the track. I was oogling at the set of AST's going in the car while I was at Mike's shop a couple weeks ago. How are they working out for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 The AST are insane. The change to abs has taken some getting used to. Im sure having only a front set and lgt brake mc doesnt help. Everything with time. It WORKS and is very quick. AST 4100 > KWv2/RCE t1 and thats all I'm admitting I am thinkign about working on my slow speed turns at Adams/apex this weekend. Let me know if you want to go. http://kropsblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/krops-apex-schedule.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobyscoodle Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 AST 4100 > KWv2/RCE t1 and thats all I'm admitting I am thinkign about working on my slow speed turns at Adams/apex this weekend. Let me know if you want to go. How do they compare to your kw's in terms of damping? I know the rates you're running on the AST's are MUCH stiffer, but other than the rates, what are your initial impressions? I'd love to get some track time in, definitely appreciate the offer! Unfortunately, I've had a hefty dose of life in the last 6 months and am just too busy right now. I still have all the parts from my OB sitting in the garage waiting to go on the 'B with no time to turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 You really can't compare to the KW. The AST are able to control the motion of these crazy springs with one ocillation and the KW would blow themselves out. I am running at OEM ride height and loving the suspension travel at speed. Really appreciated under sustained G turns at 100+. KW are tremendous to around 350whp and track use. Im asking coils to do things that less than a half dozen others are asking for in a LGT. Admittedly, the spring rate is too aggressive for DD use if you care about kidneys. Softening the dampening does not soften the spring rate. Federal RSR+StoptechBBK+AST4100+track alignment+big turbo = scared a friend so bad he thought he was gonna die. Seriously. Like I had to apologize and he is still mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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