tocinoman25 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 I f'n love that colour!I hated it at first but it grew on me man. I get alot of compliments on the color too so that helps haha. Thanks! Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Follow me on IG @chefodiycarguy and @chefo.soriano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonamedude Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 If we wanted to really nerd out on this and someone wanted to take a whack at CAD modeling the car with some representative engine bay/undertray geometry, could do some CFD runs with various vent placements to get an idea of how they'd work out flow-wise. I do aero design/analysis (among other things) for a living, and have access to the compute cluster at work off-hours. I know you can already find LGT body models on the interwebs to get the body geometry. Just sayin I've been curious as to just how much air comes in through the scoop, front grill, and lower grill. So many people run without the under shield or engine cover that I can't imagine either really do that much. No concept on the amount of effort that takes though lol. Didn't even realize you could do that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonamedude Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Got my rear sway bar on. Took quite a while honestly. 3 hours. Had no trouble getting stuff off, but getting the kart boy end links on was pretty difficult. I'm not sure if I should have lifted the car, done the work, then put it on ramps to torque everything down. I just drove it onto ramps and did all the work under load. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notorious Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Got my rear sway bar on. Took quite a while honestly. 3 hours. Had no trouble getting stuff off, but getting the kart boy end links on was pretty difficult. I'm not sure if I should have lifted the car, done the work, then put it on ramps to torque everything down. I just drove it onto ramps and did all the work under load. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I find it easier to lift one side slightly at a time to get the right angles so that the holes line up straight. Not that it matters now though since you’re probably not going to touch those endlinks again unless you’re using the Whiteline adjustable bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonamedude Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 I am indeed using the adjustable. I also have a front sway at the storage unit that'll go on when I do my lgt steering rack. It's set to soft right now but we'll see where I go from there. Also if the powder coat on it doesn't hold up like they are known for doing, I'll be getting it recoated in a few years likely. Good to know. I thought it might help to jack it up some to change the angle but I was at my apartment and didn't have my jack anyway. I tried twisting and pulling and lifting the car with my legs. I figure since it's not exactly movable, if it's all in and torqued, then it's good to go right? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awfulwaffle Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 I've been curious as to just how much air comes in through the scoop, front grill, and lower grill. So many people run without the under shield or engine cover that I can't imagine either really do that much. No concept on the amount of effort that takes though lol. Didn't even realize you could do that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Depends on the level of accuracy you want, I think. The more complex the geometry that's resolved in the CAD model the trickier it'll be to get running reliably. Gotta spend some time thinking where it's OK to cut some corners to simplify stuff without losing too much resolution. Probably a few weekends worth of effort. Sorta sounds like fun, too bad I can't bring beers to work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonamedude Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Depends on the level of accuracy you want, I think. The more complex the geometry that's resolved in the CAD model the trickier it'll be to get running reliably. Gotta spend some time thinking where it's OK to cut some corners to simplify stuff without losing too much resolution. Probably a few weekends worth of effort. Sorta sounds like fun, too bad I can't bring beers to work Yea that would be real cool. I could probably chip in motivation money lol. Sounds better to give you a few bucks than try to tape yarn all over my hood, front bumper, and roof. And then do it again with Madrigs hood scoop and removing hella horns and auxiliary light placements.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awfulwaffle Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Oh lookie https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/12161269-4d73-4ae8-87c9-406706ef7c20/Subaru-Legacy-BL-GT?hl=en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonamedude Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 No way those wheels don't rub the fenders! I didn't realize you were pulling models from sketch up. I've been learning to use it by modeling my apartment as a way to test fit new furniture. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awfulwaffle Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 I'll pull models from wherever if it means I don't have to make em. Never tried Sketchup, I'm assuming I can convert the file to a .STEP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydunno Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Oh lookie https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/12161269-4d73-4ae8-87c9-406706ef7c20/Subaru-Legacy-BL-GT?hl=enIs that for someone with a 3D printer to make models? Scotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonamedude Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 So the engineers at my work use sketch up some. You can print 3d models with it but I don't think it's ideal. It's mainly used as a drafting software for architecture. Most of our 3d printing is done with autocad. Idk if you can do a step file but I imagine you can. As for 3d printing with it you need to save to the right file and then I think there's some finagling wall thickness and stuff. There's some walk throughs on teh interwebz. If you can use that awfulwaffle, I might have enough of an understanding to adapt that one to a wagon, and an outback as well. Maybe.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonamedude Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 I'm blacked out from skiing this weekend and just gonna be watching rally Sweden so I'll see if I can mess with it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awfulwaffle Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 I'm game, shot you a PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjacheezit Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 So, found these locally and yeah. I just had to pick them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubOperator Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Oh lookie https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/12161269-4d73-4ae8-87c9-406706ef7c20/Subaru-Legacy-BL-GT?hl=en We need wagon too ! 2005 LGT Wagon Limited 6 MT RBP Stage 2 - 248K 2007 B9 Tribeca Limited DGM - 258K SOLD - 2005 OB Limited 5 MT Silver - 245K SOLD - 2010 OB 6 MT Silver - 205K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubOperator Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 So the engineers at my work use sketch up some. You can print 3d models with it but I don't think it's ideal. It's mainly used as a drafting software for architecture. Most of our 3d printing is done with autocad. Idk if you can do a step file but I imagine you can. As for 3d printing with it you need to save to the right file and then I think there's some finagling wall thickness and stuff. There's some walk throughs on teh interwebz. If you can use that awfulwaffle, I might have enough of an understanding to adapt that one to a wagon, and an outback as well. Maybe.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I wonder if we can just shoot an email to SOA corporate and ask them straight for the autocad file(s). BL/BP is >15 years old now, platform has been retired and any competitor did their analysis on it more than a decade ago. 2005 LGT Wagon Limited 6 MT RBP Stage 2 - 248K 2007 B9 Tribeca Limited DGM - 258K SOLD - 2005 OB Limited 5 MT Silver - 245K SOLD - 2010 OB 6 MT Silver - 205K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonamedude Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 We need wagon too ! The VERY ambitious idea would be to have a model for wagon and sedan with separate layers for hood, scoop, spoiler, body height, wheels, grille, front bumper, and the two different roof rails on the wagon/outback. Extra ambitious is different layers for rear bumpers and under body stuff. I'm not really sure what's most important for cfd, but for initial discussion, we are really just looking at engine bay so I'd think order of importance is front bumper, grille, body height. I haven't had a chance to download that model or look for others to determine if I can chop it up. Honestly though, I'm a bike mechanic not a 3d modeler, so don't get too excited here. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonamedude Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I wonder if we can just shoot an email to SOA corporate and ask them straight for the autocad file(s). BL/BP is >15 years old now, platform has been retired and any competitor did their analysis on it more than a decade ago. Oh that would be fantastic. Think they'd do that? I'll trying drafting an email tomorrow. That's a much better base to work from I imagine. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awfulwaffle Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) Certainly worth a shot. Worst they can say is no, right? For CFD purposes, if we get the front end/bay right, we can rough in the rear of a wagon just to get decent boundary conditions for the part of the model that matters. I sorta doubt that the wagon body would have a major impact up by the grille/scoop, anyways, at the air speeds involved Even "right" is relative - we'll often defeature the parts of models that aren't deemed to be major players in what we're looking to analyze, to knock down the computational cost. I think I agree with Nonamedude's listed priorities - front end and air entry points, body height. Edited February 12, 2020 by awfulwaffle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amptramp Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 You might want to get an underbody view as well. Think about the prospect of being able to bend and weld piping for an exhaust system. Want to go up to a 3 inch exhaust? This view would tell you if you can and the exact placement and bend angles. No test fitting required - just make it on a bench and have it fit exactly without having to hold up pieces against the chassis and cut and tack weld as you go along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkinslow Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 If this is taking off, a dedicated thread would be best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoozeRS05 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 What range of model year WRX/STi driver's seats basically drop into an 05 LGT again? Found a good condition 2010 WRX seat with heat near me, and my wagon driver seat is trash. Idc if I only have one newer seat as long as my ass is in it. EB's Subaru journal - 2005 LegacyGT Wagon & 2014 Forester FB25 (2008 specB - RIP) IG@legacygtliving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonamedude Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) If this is taking off, a dedicated thread would be best. I'll make a dedicated thread once I start messing with the models as I'm sure I'll be asking people for measurements. In the mean time, I don't think there is really much more to say about it. I'll ask people to hold their requests until we have a thread. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited February 12, 2020 by Nonamedude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorDaveLGT Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 What range of model year WRX/STi driver's seats basically drop into an 05 LGT again? Found a good condition 2010 WRX seat with heat near me, and my wagon driver seat is trash. Idc if I only have one newer seat as long as my ass is in it. That should bolt right in and only need some minor wiring work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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