Which oil pan, pick up, dipstick? for refresh

My engine is out and the oil pan looks a little rusty.

 

What is the current recommendation for oil pan replacement? I am assuming changing the pickup is a good preventative measure too?

 

I've seen recommendations for Killer B, Moroso oil pickups, and STI oil pans but it is confusing which model year STI, or should I stick with OEM for a pan? If changing oil pans, do they come with corresponding dipstick.

 

This is for a daily driver application, not track, or hill climb racing. 2005 Legacy GT wagon, VIN: 4S3BP676X56337331

 

thanks.

Factory pan and Killer B pickup would be my recommendation.

Factory pan is fine, I’ve used the Moroso pick up with a stock pan on my track car with no issues. The Killer B is nice but way pricey as compared to the Moroso

I would recommend switching to 2006+ LGT oil pan setup. It doesn't have the stupid restrictors on the drain plug hole, which makes changing the oil way less messy. They also have a slightly different oil pan baffle design, which I believe the 2006+ is better (with less left over dirty oil per change).

 

2006 LGT:

Oil Pan: 11109AA151

Dipstick: 11140AA150

 

Oil baffle and Dipstick guide show to be the same part numbers, but for sake of having it in one spot:

Baffle: 10915AA010

Dipstick Guide: 15144AA011

 

Also I would go with aftermarket pickup tube as others have mentioned, especially since OEM 2006+ tend to crack easily. I think 2005's do eventually too but not nearly as much.

2005 Pickup Tube: 15049AA070

2006 Pickup Tube: 15049AA110

Edited November 30, 2019 by covertrussian

I still can’t understand under what conditions / for what reasons pickup tube breaks.

Especially if someone does not use his car at track/drug.

Just found nice thread here:

https://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/have-you-had-cracked-oil-pickup-tubei-202175.html

I use the Moroso steel pan and pickup and I’m pretty happy with it. Killer B isn’t worth the extra cash imo.

I still can’t understand under what conditions / for what reasons pickup tube breaks.

Especially if someone does not use his car at track/drug.

 

 

I do not track my car and the pick up on my 06 failed. I am so so glad I suspected it to be the reason for lower than usual oil pressure at start up for the first couple of seconds after cold start up.

 

 

Reason could be resonance, harmonics at a certain RPM range, causing vibrations just right to make parts fail.

stress on the pick tube bracing weld...

 

could be a factor.

Forgot to say that I replaced mine with a moroso. If I waited a bit longer, the engine would be toast .

IAG pickup in mine. 2019 STI oil pan and 05 LGT dipstick. Went together just fine, and the IAG pickup is a bit cheaper than the Killer B.

Another vote for moroso. 30k on mine so far.

IAG pickup in mine. 2019 STI oil pan and 05 LGT dipstick. Went together just fine, and the IAG pickup is a bit cheaper than the Killer B.

 

What for 2019 STI oil pan ?

What for 2019 STI oil pan ?

 

Come again?

Come again?

 

Why was the new pan installed?

Excuse my english

Why was the new pan installed?

Excuse my english

 

No worries. Just because I was replacing the motor, and the old pan was rusty. Didn't really need to, though some say the newer style pans are better at keeping oil where it needs to be when cornering

AZP recommends the whole Killer B package of oil pan, baffle and pickup. Edited November 30, 2019 by ashwinearl

I'm always hesitant when a vendor recommends the most expensive option without widely accepted evidence it's the best option.

This is a that goes into the weeds on oil pans.

The answer on the oil pick up seems to be more or less bad brazing on a large batch. It cracks at the brazing usually and only for a very narrow range of years. I think it's only early 06. Mine was fine.

 

That said I did oe oil pan and killer b baffle and pickup. I was feeling spendy. It's a dd as well. My understanding of why people like the killer b pan is because it holds 2qts more oil. And more oil is better especially in cars that use lots of oil and especially when people start pushing them.

 

 

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I actually prefer the lower oil quantity, it's really nice to just buy one 5QT jug to change the oil, especially on a daily. That's why I went with 11109AA15 oil pan and will do a Moroso pickup, more then good enough for daily.

My oilpan's partnumber # 11109-AA131.

Is it good enough?

My oilpan's partnumber # 11109-AA131.

Is it good enough?

 

That's the 2005 design, it's the one that has the multi-hole drain plug hole. If you can live with that, it's fine. You can use a fumito valve to help with that, which is what honestly prevented me from ripping mine out still. But between rusting pan and leaking fumito valve, it's time for me to switch to 11109AA151 (which is still used in 2019 STI's)

The 5qt thing kills me. I decided to start out with rotella and see how that goes until I spend time to look more into oil. 4qt jugs though.

 

Yea I don't see the need for a big one on a daily. And I don't really see why you wouldn't do a fumoto valve. I still make a mess without one as the oil SHOOTS out. And I always get messy with the filter so maybe it doesn't matter much.

 

 

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Covert, tell me, please, what is fumito valve?