Nightmaresmk Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 After June i get a nice bonus because of the three year project we are finishing. I am taking part of it and fixing some issues i have with the outback. I already upgraded to Legacy GT brakes with dba rotors and stoptech pads they still suck so. Mind you, you can get these cheaper on summit or jegs. Plus it's cheaper than buying brembos adapters and two piece rotors. http://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/BrakeKitsProdFront.aspx?itemno=140-12874-N&year=2004&make=Subaru&model=Impreza&option=WRX%2c+except+STI http://www.wilwood.com/Images/BrakeKits/BrakeKit_Photos-Large/brake_kit_140-12874-N-lg.jpg http://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/BrakeKitsProdRear.aspx?itemno=140-7006&year=2004&make=Subaru&model=Impreza&option=WRX%2c+except+STI http://www.wilwood.com/Images/BrakeKits/BrakeKit_Photos-Large/brake_kit_140-7006-lg.jpg Coil overs so i can run big tires and have the heights set to my liking. Already have 04 struts its still to wobbly. these will be outback specific height with 8K front and 6k Rear plus they use a radial bearing meaning they won't bind. I will make coilover covers for them for the winter. http://www.fortune-auto.com/dreadnoughtpro2way.htm http://www.fortune-auto.com/Gen5%202%20way.jpg Wheel and tire will be 255/40R18 on http://www.fastwrx.com/mav18wiaw.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobyscoodle Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I would take some of the brake budget and put it towards different CO's. Also, I'm not a big fan of running a higher rate up front, that's sort of personal preference though (unless doing lots of autoX, even then I think equal f/r is better). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th3Franz Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Wow I have never heard of those coilovers. -Franz The end of a Legacy http://www.youtube.com/th3franz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobo2701 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Ya my ohlins are 7k front 7k rear would be awkward I would think having them not equal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drunkinmonk Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I think it's standard to have coilovers not be the same. I want some prices on those. They look pretty awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmaresmk Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 I was quoted $3800 for outback specific coilovers. mind u these are double adjustable and have different rebound and compression adjusters. they make a lower end for the legacy and seem to popular for wrx's and sti's and porsche. I was curious about the spring setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobyscoodle Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I was running 6k front 8k rear for awhile and that was fine. Myles at RCE convinced me to go with a balanced rate setup f/r, took me a bit to get used to it, and I switched to an equal f/r sway bar diameter and really like it now. The rear suspension design has a mechanical advantage on the coil/shock, so your coil rate is much higher than the actual wheel rate. The front mcpherson setup ends up producing a wheel rate that's much closer to the spring rate. I can't think of any scenario where you'd want a significantly higher front rate on this chassis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmaresmk Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 I have a 25mm perrin fsb and a 21mm cusco rear. I tried asking RCE if they could make a set of tarmac 1's for the outback height they suggested the legacy version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmaresmk Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 scoobyscoodle Any thoughts on a coilover company that will make custom coilovers that aren't junk and don't cost 10k. I don't race enough to justify the Full custom set. My options so far are RCE/KW with 2" spacers $2.5k Fortune Auto custom outback height $4K Ohilins but that kind of sad to spend that much on amazing suspension to add spacers BC 1.2K Cusco are not rebuild able so they are out. Would love the controller though Tein i do not like I might look into a custom setup using Koni struts with sleeves and swift springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobyscoodle Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I might look into a custom setup using Koni struts with sleeves and swift springs. Honestly, if you want to keep the stock OB ride height, this is probably your best bet. I ended up converting my OB suspension to the LGT setup so that I could run any of the legacy stuff I wanted, but if you're trying to keep it an outback your options are pretty limited. I love the RCE/KWs but don't really think it would be ideal, or safe, to run them with such a large spacer (I wouldn't go over 1", and even that is a big spacer). Same goes for Ohlins, but even more $$ wasted. $4K is way more money than I'd spend on something for fortune auto, double-adjust or not. If you could make something work with Koni inserts and a GC sleeve I think that would be a pretty nice setup, but it definitely won't be bolt on out of the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmaresmk Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 Well i have six months to plan. and the Other XT's on here are making me want a 6spd lol Also contacted http://www.muellerized.com/ since they setup the fenominal's outback just want to be an 1" taller than him lol. I'm going to play with 265/40R18's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobo2701 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 not sure why u would want coilovers and stock outback height.. would imagine u would want low center of gravity. i could see if u were trying to be able to drop it down while racing then raise it back up but ive got the ohlins dfv's and at there highest setting are not really even close to stock lgt height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmaresmk Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 Not complete stock outback height 1-1.5 inches lower with adjust ability. Legacy gt's can not stuff a 255/50R17 let alone a 255/45R17. which allows a lot of grip and still maintain a cushion. I do love your setup but i want to use 265/40R18's or 255/40R18s and still have that area around the wheel well for suspension travel. It's not about how low it's about useability and function. Helps I'm crazy. this shows how much room i have and look with 255/50R17's on 17x8Et35 torques http://imageshack.com/a/img266/6927/img20130501155315924.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img836/4061/img20130506124358739.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted January 18, 2014 Moderators Share Posted January 18, 2014 I bet you could do normal coilovers, have a lower (functionally lower) car, and pay for custom body work to add flares and come out on top and also come out with a car that handles better. "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted January 18, 2014 Moderators Share Posted January 18, 2014 Or maybe not. Worth exploring both options though. "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobyscoodle Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Don't underestimate what you can do with a fender roller, the oem obxt flares, and some time. I was running 255/40/R18's on mine, definitely lower than oem LGT height, and had plenty of room. I could have easily fit 265's, maybe even 275's with some trimming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobo2701 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 i hade 255/40/r18 this summer was fine unless i had more than one other person in my car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmaresmk Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 Lol Mybe i just need to find a friend with some RCE/KW coilovers and test how i want the car to sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobo2701 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 def not a bad idea. could always put like a 1/2" or so spacer in if need be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted January 18, 2014 Moderators Share Posted January 18, 2014 Lol Mybe i just need to find a friend with some RCE/KW coilovers and test how i want the car to sit. def not a bad idea. could always put like a 1/2" or so spacer in if need be. I installed my RCE Tarmac 1s with 3/8" spacers front and rear because I knew for sure that I don't ever want to be terribly low. I'm at 14.25" measures from hub to fender in the front, and 14.5" in the rear. I'm sure that the T1s wouldn't complain if I went up a good bit farther, but I figure they're in a pretty happy place right now. I think 1/2" to 3/4" spacers with regular LGT coils would definitely give you a good bit of practical height adjustment for tires. "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmaresmk Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 Are RCE's or KW's adjustable height separate from the spring load? 1/2" front and 3/4" rear spacers. New Rear endlinks spec b bump stop Whiteline camber bushing Whiteline trailing arms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted January 18, 2014 Moderators Share Posted January 18, 2014 Change the spacers to 3/8" and that will most likely be my exact setup for summer as well--minus the specb bump stops and I'll add in LGT rear upper control arms. RCEs adjust height / spring preload together. Dampening (or rebound?) adjustment is separate. "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmaresmk Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 Ok i was hoping for separate but i know they are good coilovers. BarManBean how is the coilbind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted January 18, 2014 Moderators Share Posted January 18, 2014 If you are referring to coil bind like I think you are, I don't think it applies--I don't drive fast enough and an outback isn't exactly full of aero-prowess, so downforce isn't making or breaking the handling of the car. Or do you mean something different? The spring rates are even, 400/400, if that's what you're wondering. RCE (and I'd assume KW) offer different spring rates and swift springs if you want though. "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmaresmk Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 Sorry coilbind as in when you take a corner the spring turns on the perch but the perch doesn't rotate so you get a ping noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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