element899 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 So, looking to purchase a Killer Bee oil pickup for my 2005 LGT. But... On rallysportdirect, it says that the pickup only fits 2006 and up legacy's. Did the oil pan change from 05 to 06? If so, I think that's the only thing keeping me from installing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRX USA Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 According to this the oil pan is the same part: http://opposedforces.com/parts/legacy/us_b13/type_18/lubrication_system/oil_pan/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 The oil pan did change. '05 was 11109AA131. '06+ was 11109AA150, superseded to 11109AA151. KillerB pickup and header interference issues (some brands) with the older style pan. The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
element899 Posted December 18, 2015 Author Share Posted December 18, 2015 Awesome. Thank you @Underdog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claw Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Oh, phooey. I picked up a used pick up not knowing it won't fit my 05... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 PM me your VIN and I'll confirm the oil pan p/n for your car. The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Gator Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 The Moroso pickup works great too and is half the price. I run the Moroso in my Spec B I just rebuilt. Nothing like a race track to find the weak points in man and machine. "Good Judgement comes from Experience. Experience comes from Bad Judgement" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cBax Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 May have a new '05 pan for sale... Any issues with using a later model pan on an '05? '05 Outback XT www.facebook.com/baxleysspeedshop www.baxleysspeedshop.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silinc3r Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I have the KillerB oil pickup installed on my 05. I would also grab the windage tray while you have the pan dropped. There is also info stating I believe that the 05 wasn't as prone to the crack. I did it anyway and my pickup looked great for 110,000 miles Silinc3r's 05 SWP GT/Spec B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmP6889928 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 The Moroso pickup works great too and is half the price. I run the Moroso in my Spec B I just rebuilt. I put the 6 quart steel Moroso pan and pickup on my own build and love it. It fits great, any ELH header will fit it, and it was about $350ish for the pan and pickup as a package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snm95ls Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 IAG has a combo kit for the Moroso stuff for a damn good price. Hmmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shralp Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 +1 for good fitment on the Moroso pick up on my '05 oil pan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quick4dr Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 i also run the the 6 qt moroso pan with pick up. scored a killer deal at Wicked Big Meet. spoke to the Moroso guy at the beginning of the day, then went back when he was packing up, and made him an offer so he doesn't have to pack it up and bring it home. snagged pan with pickup, the studs to install the pan, and shit tons of moroso stickers for $275. Only issue I had was the upper plug fitting had to be tightened big time to stop it from leaking. the o ring supplied for the dipstick was too small and I had oil splashing out of the dipstick hole onto my headers. all easily remedied I had used Suby bucks to buy the killer Bee set up and had never installed them. Selling them paid for the Moroso. (I miss suby bucks, I use to make work purchases to get the points) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboboost Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 This is one those preventative upgrades I'm looking into at the moment. Will probably talk to Rey at AZP to hear his thoughts. If the value is there vs. KillerB, I'll go Moroso too. May be a silly question, but are you filling up to 6qts for oil changes, and if so, what are your new OCIs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhitter Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I have the KillerB pan / pickup / baffle. Currently been running normal OCIs. Only had two since my engine rebuild. Next Oil change (will be at 4k) I'll get a Blackstone oil analysis done. My OBXT build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
element899 Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 So just confirming. The moroso oil pickup fits in the 2005 oil pan, I don't need to switch to 2006 or above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJuan Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Correct. I have a '05 with the Moroso pick up with no issues. My wife's balls are delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shralp Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 good to go with the Moroso on the '05 pan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJuan Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Yes, yes and yes My wife's balls are delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmP6889928 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I have not used one but I have heard the Covert Performance pickup fits well and is quite a nice piece too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK76 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I put the 6 quart steel Moroso pan and pickup on my own build and love it. It fits great, any ELH header will fit it, and it was about $350ish for the pan and pickup as a package. Do you have any fitment issues with undercover? What does bigger pan do for the car? Less frequent oil changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted January 5, 2016 Moderators Share Posted January 5, 2016 Do you have any fitment issues with undercover? What does bigger pan do for the car? Less frequent oil changes? More capacity to prevent oil loss from becoming an issue and also to provide more oil for heat dispersion if that's an issue (track usage). Does not promote less frequent oil changes on it's own. "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhitter Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 More capacity to prevent oil loss from becoming an issue and also to provide more oil for heat dispersion if that's an issue (track usage). Does not promote less frequent oil changes on it's own. I had heat issues before and I have heat issues after. Hot days 95+ and sustained RPMs, my temperature starts climbing. So, if you have "heat" issues, this on it's own might not be the solution. I mostly got it for "more capacity to prevent oil loss from becoming an issue". My OBXT build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted January 5, 2016 Moderators Share Posted January 5, 2016 I had heat issues before and I have heat issues after. Hot days 95+ and sustained RPMs, my temperature starts climbing. So, if you have "heat" issues, this on it's own might not be the solution. I mostly got it for "more capacity to prevent oil loss from becoming an issue". Yeah. I'm also guessing that you aren't measuring the temperature of your oil, but rather your coolant, correct? Obviously they are related, but I'm not sure how "direct" that relationship is. I would imagine that attaching any sort of heatsink to your new pan would further help the cooling effect. Do you have an aftermarket radiator as well? If so, I'm not sure why you would be overheating...? "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhitter Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Correct - OEM coolant temperature. Koyo racing radiator with Hyper-V. i.e supposedly the best. Cavatation of the OEM water pump is what I am guessing based off of posts from Sgt.Gator. I'll try water+water wetter this summer and see if that stops it. He also linked a giant thread on Nasioc about it, but I haven't gone through the whole thread yet. This only happens at high sustained RPMs in high ambient temps. Looking around, this seems to happen with Subaru motors, some run hot, some don't. I have a plan of attack (clean AC condenser with HVAC chemicals, seal AC / Rad to better direct airflow) etc. I don't have an oil temp gauge yet so I can't tell where the heat is coming from yet. My OBXT build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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