JLGT Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I cannot believe it, I failed smog, and nothing was tampered. According to the smog place my GT should have a secondary cat, and an air pump. Is this right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acumenhokie Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I think they are confused about what kind of car it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarang Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 There is no secondary cat stock. I just popped out to my garage to look at my stock pipes that are leaning against the wall. There is a cat in the J pipe, nothing in the intermediate pipe, a resonator in the mid pipe, and the cans. That's all. I call steaming BS. Perhaps they could show you the location of this cat in the parts diagrams from Subaru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) We don't have a secondary air pump or a 2nd cat. I saw this problem crop up on the Bay Area Subaru Group Facebook page, another guy with a 2010 failed also because of the same issue. On the 2010's, the emissions sticker under the hood says that there should be an air pump, and I think a second cat. It is different than mine on my 2012 which doesn't specify the air pump or the 2nd cat. I think Subaru screwed the pooch here and placed the wrong information on that emissions sticker for the 2010 GTs, contact SOA. This is the sticker that the guy with the 2010 GT posted. This is the one from my 2012 GT. Notice that "AIR" is not listed in the emissions equipment list. Edited July 20, 2016 by GTEASER GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLGT Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) Basically I cannot smog my car and they said I have to go to a referee. I guess I will contact SOA. Edited July 20, 2016 by JLGT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJuan Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Try a 2nd smog shop. My wife's balls are delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blklgt05 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Is your car modded? Cuz I know a guy... mod journal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) Added photos to my post above. Also, there is no mention of a secondary air pump in the FSM. Here is the link to the thread on FB. PM the guy and see what he ended up doing. July 2 at 4:16 is the post time. https://www.facebook.com/groups/bayareasubarugroup/10153577531451956/?comment_id=10153579159146956¬if_t=like¬if_id=1467579488991848 Edited July 20, 2016 by GTEASER GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace2010LGT Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 You have a secondary air pump!!!!! The turbo!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 You have a secondary air pump!!!!! The turbo!!!!! That's the PRIMARY air pump. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace2010LGT Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 The engine is the primary. The turbo is the secondary. Then put a dummy o2 sensor after the resonator and say it's a cat. Problem solved. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLGT Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 Paperwork they gave me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 That's an exhaust diagram for "the other" Subaru turbo layout. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarang Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 That looks more like a '10 WRX exhaust.It seems like you could get somewhere since that doesn't even represent your car's layout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLGT Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 Added photos to my post above. Also, there is no mention of a secondary air pump in the FSM. Here is the link to the thread on FB. PM the guy and see what he ended up doing. July 2 at 4:16 is the post time. https://www.facebook.com/groups/bayareasubarugroup/10153577531451956/?comment_id=10153579159146956¬if_t=like¬if_id=1467579488991848 Link isn't working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Link isn't working. Ask for acceptance into the group and then you should be able to see it once you're accepted. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 NVM, it's a secret group. PM me your FB contact info and lets friend each other and I will add you to the group so you can talk to that guy that's having the same issue. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLGT Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 I don't have an FB account. :sad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBPeik Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I would try a second shop first and if that does not work see if SOA can get you another sticker. Ref is the last option, but would work for sure My someday I will be done with it thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blklgt05 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 My 05' LGT had 3 cats lol, it was too many. mod journal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Maybe go visit your local dealer's parts department and talk to them to see if that sticker was revised already. Their system should show a revision to the part number if it was. Maybe Subaru already caught the mistake and they can just order you up a new sticker. Take your car, they will need the VIN. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarang Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 This kinda makes it look like there are two cats in the J pipe, one before the O2 sensor and one after: http://parts.camelbacksubaru.com/a/Subaru_2010_Legacy25L-TURBO-6MT-4WDGT-Limited-Sedan/_54102_6021266/AIR-DUCT-EXHAUST-10MY-12MY/B14-073-02.html And this shows the correct path of our factory exhaust: http://parts.camelbacksubaru.com/a/Subaru_2010_Legacy25L-TURBO-6MT-4WDGT-Limited-Sedan/_54102_6024320/EXHAUST-EXHAUST--MUFFLER-10MY-10MY/B14-440-03.html I would call them out on their diagram not matching the OEM's or the layout of your vehicle. That's their problem, not yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Technically it is his problem not theirs, lol. He needs the smog certification and they provide it. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Talked to the local guy and he just took it to the dealer and had them smog it. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLGT Posted July 21, 2016 Author Share Posted July 21, 2016 I guess, that's the plan then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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