Kojak Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022-subaru-outback-wilderness-edition-first-look-review/ SOA’s response to being locked down for a year is to GoMo. Some interesting features from the factory, however I am not a fan of their new fondness for ridiculous metallic accents inside and out. But it’s a turbo wagon, so there’s that. Opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWebb Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 turbocharged 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine is the only choice for Outback Wilderness buyers. It makes the same 260 hp Still under powered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojak Posted April 2, 2021 Author Share Posted April 2, 2021 Concur. And even w a new ratio, the trans is still CVT. Can’t see the rig-building overlanders loving an off the shelf finish, either. Curious what kind of production numbers they’re anticipating. I won’t be in the market anytime soon but I’d be interested to see how people customize in the next couple years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 Was waiting for a locking rear diff, and perhaps the return of a dual range gearbox. eeeeee nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Well, I assume it's the ATS (clutch pack) transmission and not the VTD (planetary diff), but no real clue if it is. The difference in my opinion is that VTD is better than ATS because ATS isn't activating until a slip is detected, which makes a difference when starting on slippery surfaces. But if it do have the VTD then it's definitely a lot more appealing. People complaining about the CVT causing bad traction compared to the stepped slushbox don't realize that what they actually experience is the difference between ATS and VTD. Personally I don't like touch screens in cars even though I understand the design practical aspect - you don't have to care about new buttons/switches, just add a new touch icon and you are finished with the UI work. So touch screens are actually cost savers in the vehicle world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shralp Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 Meh.. jeez the profile pic from the front makes those tires look like pizza cutters. That’s the meat that comes on these?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Well, I assume it's the ATS (clutch pack) transmission and not the VTD (planetary diff), but no real clue if it is. The difference in my opinion is that VTD is better than ATS because ATS isn't activating until a slip is detected, which makes a difference when starting on slippery surfaces. It probably is ATS, that is not true at about Subaru not activating the ATS until it slips. Under normal part throttle driving the Subaru applies the ATS with a duty cycle. From the datalogs I have seen, under normal driving the Front/Ratio 70/30-60/40 range. I don't think Subaru ever fully disengages the rear differential even when throttle is 0 and the vehicle is coasting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 It probably is ATS, that is not true at about Subaru not activating the ATS until it slips. Under normal part throttle driving the Subaru applies the ATS with a duty cycle. From the datalogs I have seen, under normal driving the Front/Ratio 70/30-60/40 range. I don't think Subaru ever fully disengages the rear differential even when throttle is 0 and the vehicle is coasting While driving that might be true, but when starting from a standstill it has a tendency to slip a bit before traction sets in and unless the traction control is disabled the throttle is cut. The vehicles with ATS also understeers more than vehicles with the other types of traction systems. I'm on my 8th Subie now and have experienced most of the traction systems with their advantages and disadvantages. Best traction experience was the third gen Outback with the 4EAT/VTD that I had. But the manuals weren't bad either. The ATS is as I see it a "cheapo" solution closer to the Haldex solution - which works but isn't performing as well as the VTD. The difference between a proactive and a reactive system is noticeable for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nannerbdale Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 For the less extreme overlanders and Subaru's general customer-base, I feel they made the right move with the equipment on the Wilderness. If I had the dough I wouldn't mind shelling it out for one. I just don't believe Subaru was looking to step on the 4Runner or Wrangler's toes with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORULZleggy Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 I am not sure what the big deal is with the Wilderness edition outback. they make it seem like people are going to go take these things to the max. I see them all over the place with guys with beards, and older people driving them mainly and I never see them dirty lol. I still don't get what people love so much about the cross trek and other editions. I loved my 06 OB Limited, but not to the point I am buying one again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 even subaru need to make a mall crawler I guess. you think most people with Jeep wranglers take them off road at all? its all marketing hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 On 7/19/2022 at 9:17 AM, NORULZleggy said: I am not sure what the big deal is with the Wilderness edition outback. they make it seem like people are going to go take these things to the max. I see them all over the place with guys with beards, and older people driving them mainly and I never see them dirty lol. I still don't get what people love so much about the cross trek and other editions. I loved my 06 OB Limited, but not to the point I am buying one again. Just saying, we replaced our 16' outback 3.6R with an 18' 3.6R, because, the car just makes sense. It's big enough, holds enough stuff, great in bad weather. I have a many ski friends that have them. I'm getting close to thinking about buying another car, for Winter ski trips, my 05 has 304,000miles. If Subaru didn't have a big mark up on the car, newer outback, I might have bought one already. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzr750r1 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Sad day finding out the H6 was canned. Looking at the site. I laugh at the NA going 2.5 and the Turbo models going 2.4 including the bloated Ascent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 hour ago, kzr750r1 said: Sad day finding out the H6 was canned. Looking at the site. I laugh at the NA going 2.5 and the Turbo models going 2.4 including the bloated Ascent. We aren't permitted to have fun or have nice things anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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