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johnny 5 02-23-2013 08:05 AM

3.6r owners please step in
I am about to pull the trigger on a 2013 3.6r limited, probably going to order one to my preference.

The 09 2.5i SE 5spd I bought new has been an absolute gem, 51k and the car has never missed a beat. I love everything about it, but feel like something new would be a nice change of pace.

Has anybody out there owned the pre-gen 2.5 and moved to a new 3.6? What are the pros and cons you noticed? How does the 3.6 feel after 10-15-20k? I know my 09 kept feeling faster and mpg got better every few thousand miles until 20k.

I've taken one out on a test drive already and really liked it, but wasn't pushing it as hard as I would if I owned it and it was through break-in.

How is road noise and real world MPG? What options and accessories did you like or dislike?

nadracer 02-23-2013 09:07 AM

Dont get the 3.6R if you want to match the mpg of your 2.5. It wont happen. I get about 18-22 depending how hard I drive but I did manage 29mpg once on a trip to Mass.

Its not super fast but it moves well. The engine and cabin are still quiet after 3 years of ownership. I do wish 3.6 had more of the engine tech updates that were currently available in 2010 like direct injection. But thats really it. Its a good car. I'm at 25k now and I'll definitely be keeping it for another 3 years at this rate.

johnny 5 02-23-2013 09:28 AM

Thanks for the feedback. I'm not overly concerned with a drop in mileage if the trade-off is more power.
Do you do a lot of city driving? 25k in 3 years is not much.

Sleepr56 02-23-2013 09:37 AM

3.6R power is plenty over the 2.5. My brother has an oh-10 and I am happy I don't go that route. Gas mileage blows, but I didn't expect much of a mob upgrade after owning an STi.

I'd say go for it, the suspension changes on the '13 are worth it.

johnny 5 02-23-2013 09:49 AM

The suspension and handling is important to me. I am amazed at how much speed my 09 can carry around the twisty back roads I drive on. 70-80mph around a sweeping curve is nothing for it. If the new one can match that I would be very happy.

PoManzAWD 02-23-2013 09:58 AM

If you're happy with the power and handling of your 2009 2.5i, why on earth do you want to replace it with a Legacy that's going to eat more ~$4/gal gasoline? Basically ~21mpg on average vs. 29?

As much as I love Soobs, I wouldn't touch one with a 6cyl.

Get a new 2.5i with a 6spd manual if the latest body style/features are important to you.

johnny 5 02-23-2013 11:30 AM

That's a good point. I was really bummed to find out they dropped the GT, which is why I'm considering the 3.6.
The power of my 09 is just barley enough to keep me satisfied and amused, I assumed the newer and heavier model with the same power would be too slow and lack the passing power I need.

For the record, another car I'm considering is a 4dr GTi, Golf R would be sick, but I can't justify the cost for something like that. I'm just not sure I want to give up AWD.

The new altima, optima/sonata, accord, or domestics do nothing for me. Not a fan of the passat or jetta at all, and the cc doesn't suit me.

I also drove the crosstrek, both cvt and 5spd. Not a fan of the major lack of torque.

Maybe I just need to sit tight and wait for the next WRX...

orndog 02-23-2013 11:47 AM

The '13 2.5 has a bit more power, but not the fat torque of the 3.6. Drive them both and decide.

sschmelcke 02-23-2013 01:39 PM

I love my 3.6. Best car I've owned and I had a 4th gen GT. almost 60k miles on it. Gas mileage is good if you baby it. Great highway cruiser and no weird rattles in the cabin yet. I miss the power of my stage 3.5 turbo but def not the price I had to pay to play.

laufu 02-23-2013 02:14 PM

Hi Johnny
I went from a 05 2.5 GT to a 13 3.6R limited. I think the GT was faster, but the R is quieter and much smoother on highway. Mileage is better with the R. I average about 24 miles per gallon in 5000 miles verse the 22 for the life of the GT. While it is nice to fill up with regular instead of premium, I find I am actually paying more at the pump because the 2013 has a bigger fuel tank.

I can give you more opinions later if you like tonight, since my phone is low on battery.

seiyafan 02-23-2013 05:09 PM

30k on my 2011 3.6R. I agree with everything said, mileage could be better, as a comparison, Audi A8 and BMW 740i get better mileage (28 mpg) on highway. It does make me scratch my head a little when I see the S550 has a 4.6L V8 and 1200 pounds heavier curb weight than the 3.6R but both get the same 25 mpg on highway. :iam:

hawker800mech 02-23-2013 05:48 PM

Do yourself a favor and drive a 13 2.5 CVT Legacy. I just picked one up a few months ago and love it. I came from an 11 Mustang GT that ran low 12's in the quarter. I, also, have since new an 06 2.5 Legacy wagon (4EAT). I find that the power on the new one is much better than the older one. Especially on the highway. Plus, I'm getting 28 mpg mixed driving and it seems to do well when I'm heavy footed. I thought about the 3.6R but I drive 50-60 miles a day and was trying to get away from the 17 mpg I got with the Mustang. You'll love the handling of the 13 Legacy. Get the 19mm Subie rear sway bar, play with tire inflations and you're golden.

DugsSin 02-23-2013 07:01 PM

Here's my 2cents.
We got 27.3 miles/gallon with cruise control set at 82mph most of the time over a 3400 mile vacation with luggage and three adults. No complaints about mileage from me. I've gotten as high as 31 when alone but not at Interstate speeds.

It's a very nice dependable daily driver in my book. It will let you merge with no problem onto the Interstate. Comfortable but it's no sports sedan or luxury sedan just depends on your frame of reference I guess. You don't get that at this price level IMHO. Even with new Michelins I feel there's too much road noise. We will be keeping it for many years and would recommend it.

Bet I just :mad: some people off :rolleyes:

sschmelcke 02-23-2013 07:15 PM

Yeah on a 400 mile highway trip I averaged 29mpg. They city and quick starts are what murders it.

seiyafan 02-23-2013 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by DugsSin (Post 4308701)
Even with new Michelins I feel there's too much road noise.

which michelins do you have?

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