Racer3251 Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Hey everyone, I am new to this forum and the LGT and so far I love both. Anyhow, I have had my 2005 LGT for 2 weeks now and the weather has finally started to get cold in the PA mornings (about 35-40 degrees F). My car has started and run beautifully thus far cold or hot.... This morning though it gave me a little apprehension on start up. It was 35 degrees out, and when it cranked over it made about a 1-2 second long squeel or grind kind of sound (almost like a fan belt but not really). It only made this sound as it cranked over and once it was running it was fine, and then when i restarted at the gas station once I bought my pumkin spice coffee it started up normally and queitly. This sound was probably nothing at all, but the slight grind in the squeel had me worried a touch and wanted to ask and see if it is nature of the beast when it gets cold (i.e. a fan belt getting cold or slipping), or even if it is sign of something failing (i.e. a battery going bad or even a starter). Please let me know what any of you think to ease my nerves lol. Also, on a side note, what oil weight is everyone running...I know the manual says 5w30 but I am an Amsoil fan and they reccommend their 0w30..any thoughts or recommendations??? Thanks a lot for your help and sorry for the long winded post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 My starter has been doing that off/on for a couple of years now when it's cold. It did it Tuesday this week but not lately. Sounds like the starter is trying to spin the enigine over after it starts. You have a 05, you can use what ever oil you like, your out of warrenty. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer3251 Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 My starter has been doing that off/on for a couple of years now when it's cold. It did it Tuesday this week but not lately. Sounds like the starter is trying to spin the enigine over after it starts. You have a 05, you can use what ever oil you like, your out of warrenty. Thanks a lot for you reply...sounds like nothing to worry about, and it did kinda sound like the starter was tryign to turn over an already turning motor...hopefully it wont destroy anything Ya the warranty expired in August, I just wanted to ask bout oil so that I dont get any slduge or anything like that and ruin my motor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notthesnail Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Amsoil 0w30 has been recommended to me as a year round option so long as I don't do anything more strenuous than autocross. With a favorable used oil analysis, I may be able to get a whole year out of one oil change. We'll see. It goes in within the next couple weekends. Also recommended to me was the Amsoil EA020 (OEM replacement is EA012) oil filter. It has a slightly larger capacity and slightly lower bypass pressure than OEM spec filters. The justification for this was "do you really want a pressure differential of more than 21 psi before you get bypass oil flowing in an engine design known for spun bearings?" Sounded reasonable. Plus, it costs less. Realistically, anything 5w30 should be fine if you change it regularly. 0w30 might be better if you experience cold winters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 I use 5-30 in the winter, and currently have 15-40 Shell Rotella in there. That's coming out next week and Castrol 5-30 going in may be 10-30. I have been using Fram filters for most of my 133,600 miles. Main thing I found is change the oil on a regular basis. Hammerdown on here uses Amsoil and swears by it, he has 154,000 miles. and goes with 17,000 mile OCI. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCvillain Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 It's not a normal noise. This is not the starter or other starting only equipment. It's kind of a scrapping and squeal in the first .5 second till oil pressure is up. Could be other pump like steering or brake but I only get this when I start the engine after at least an overnight sit. I wonder if it's the first seconds worth of oil starvation? I don't know if these engines keep pressure on the filter as some cars do to reduce time to prime and pump oil at start-up. I don't like the sound but not much to do about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettlebob Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 It seems that since the weather has cooled off, I am also getting this grinding / squealing sound when I start my car on a cold morning (about 30 degrees). It sounds like the starter is staying engaged for a second too long. I called and asked the dealership and they have never heard of this. Is this something with the starter or a different issue? Has anyone else who has had this issue been able to fix it , or did it just go away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegGTLT Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 I've heard this same squeel/squeal/squel on my '05 with 106k on VERY cold morning start ups, around 19-30 degrees. That's the only time. After it's warm, nothing wrong with the start-up and no sounds. Please PM joeleodee For All Site Questions. He is the acting Admin and can resolve anything related to LegacyGT.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoozeRS05 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 I have the same 'issue'.. Only on very cold startups, does it every once in awhile, split second noise. Mines done it a dozen times over the years (this morning), never really worried me too much, everything seems fine.. EB's Subaru journal - 2005 LegacyGT Wagon & 2014 Forester FB25 (2008 specB - RIP) IG@legacygtliving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05AWDGT Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Just adding that mine does the same thing. Only in the cold, like this morning, it was about 25 degrees out. This is a bad sound, it scared me the first time I heard it. Seems to be normal though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssbtech Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Mine usually lets out a 1.5 to 2 second squeel right after it fires up, more often in the cold. Doesn't sound like the starter running too long, sounds like something else. It would be nice to know what it is. Belts are all tight and don't squeel at any other time so I don't think it is a belt. Doesn't sound like metal on metal either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boymk123 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 loose belts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssbtech Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Not the belts on mine, they're all tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blongo804 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 What if i'm getting this grinding sound going from 1st-2nd and 2nd-3rd on the 5EAT after a cold start then going? I'm afraid to know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssbtech Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 What if i'm getting this grinding sound going from 1st-2nd and 2nd-3rd on the 5EAT after a cold start then going? I'm afraid to know... Then I think you're dealing with a different problem than the one that lasts for only a second immediately after startup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettlebob Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 The belts seem to be nice and tight, if other people have the same issue then I guess I won't worry about it. But I would like to know what is causing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssbtech Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Are the people with the start-up squeel 5MT or 5EAT owners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettlebob Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 5EAT here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brum Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 5MT I think the belts are so cold that they slip on startup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanzGotBoost Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 5 MT, yeah has been slipping every day its been below 30 degrees outside, my clutch felt frozen today too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christurismohk Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 add me to the list, I have this also during cold weather. Sound lasts about .5-1 sec, and then is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 5MT, mine did it again this morning 21F, didn't drivethe car yesterday, but didn't do in VT on Sunday 24F and I didn't hear it last Sunday in VT when it was 15F. Like I said mine has been doing this for years, I believe it has done it in the summer time too. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotsugg Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 5EAT and I hear it now and then on cold start ups. It does sound like the starter to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gil_ong Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 i have experienced this as well. usually during cold morning or in the evening leaving work. i suspect it's my starter. the bendix must be sticking. gonna look into replacing the starter before it really konks out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
never summer Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 5EAT for me and I have the same issues. I also have a squeak at lower rpm like when at a stop light. It sounds like a pulley I think, which could also be my startup grind/squealer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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