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  1. I decided to purchase the extended warranty (SAS Gold Plan) when I bought my OBXT, but it's the same idea. Yes, there are geographic areas that you're supposed to buy from but it does NOT have to be through your selling dealer. Call around. The SAS plan can be cancelled and you can be issued a refund so long as you do it before it's active. You pay a small administrative fee, I think around $50-75. If you're in the extended warranty portion, you'd get a pro-rated discount. FWIW, I paid around $1600 after sales tax for my 10y/100k/$100 deductible plan. I just wanted something to help protect me from catastrophic failure (CVT, engine, etc.) since this is my first turbo model. And there's a lot of tech on the interior that I didn't want to deal with. Basically, when the extended warranty expires, the car would be 10 years old. Either would have an Outback Hybrid by then, or drive it till it blows up since I don't think it would be worth that much at that point.
  2. So, @bms231 - You can have your dealer change the bias for the climate from -3 to +3 in whole numbers. I've read posts on the OB forum that asked the dealer use the SST to change it to "0" and it was more "normal"... I have the same experience in my 21 OBXT with the climate being hot or freezing. The Forester had a Climate mode where you could specify "Eco" "Normal" "Comfort" and "Power" modes. The OBXT does not, so I infer that the Leg doesn't either. Unfortunately. It's been about 3 months with my OBXT. I'm starting to finally love it. When I first got it, I knew I wanted the extra power over the base engine. The infotainment took a couple weeks before I figured out what I wanted to do quickly. There's a learning curve. But once you learn it, you know. No hunting through submenus or anything like that. No CarPlay glitches since I started using a Genuine Apple cable. Everything working well. Have set the Cruise Control characteristics to "4 - Dynamic" per some suggestions on the OB forums, and it makes the car more fun to drive - since we don't get the SI-Drive option. It kind of feels like the sportier tip-in. Maybe the computer holds revs higher before doing the fake shifts.
  3. Regardless of my reasons for doing so, would still like to monitor CVT temperature. Anyone have experience with the about app or Bluetooth dongle?
  4. Hi all, Trying to see if I can use an app to measure the CVT temperature to help come up with a reasonable replacement interval. I have a 2021 Outback Onyx XT on order, but some difficulties lately: I am currently driving a 2019 Forester. My previous car was a 2011 Outback 2.5. The 2011 could access CVT temperature via an app like ActiveOBD for Subaru on Android, using my OBDLink LX with a cheapie Android phone I had on hand (with no data plan) The 2019 can not display the CVT temperature. Trying to find out if this is a Forester thing, an app thing, or an adapter thing. Since the Outback and Legacy are practically the same car, I figured I would ask around here too. The OB forum appears to be stumped or people don’t care at the moment since the vehicle refresh is still pretty new. If my fluid temperatures are under 180F I would consider running 100k intervals. Maybe even leave it alone if it stays at 160.
  5. Congrats. I have an Outback Onyx XT on order myself. Edit - apparently I commented on this a few weeks ago. Congrats again either way. Sucks getting old and not remembering stuff I guess!
  6. Welcome back. I still need the extra space with the kids and all our cargo so I went with an Outback Onyx. Likewise, very happy to be back!
  7. There was a brief stop sale according to the STIS regarding the prop shaft. Appears to be an Ascent issue? WUI-94.
  8. I’d rather they stop it. They’ve had some bad experiences with bad supply parts before. People don’t care that the “supply company” had inferior quality stuff. At the end of the day their Subaru had a problem.
  9. Torque converter was changed from a throw out style to a washer style following some issues in the 2010-2012ish mode Outbacks. It was repaired on my former ride. My 2011 Outback had the TR690 and it was fine. No shift points. When I put my Forester into “S” mode it reminds me of it. It was a little torquey off the line and slow in the mid range. My Forester In I more is smoother all around. Much better tuning I think. Regarding the parasitic drag they removed some pulleys or something relating to when they formed the 580 from the 690.
  10. There are a few cases on the Ascent forum about failures. There was a hunch that it was related to a September 2018 delivery last year which may have suggested a bad supplier part or something. Remember: There are tens of thousands of Ascents on the road now. A handful of CVT failures is a minuscule amount. This is what your warranty is for.
  11. Right I was thinking the same thing. From my understanding if I had to put my finger on a sole weak spot it would probably be the valve body or solenoids as the fluid starts to gather gunk later in the service life. These contaminants from wear will eventually deposit somewhere not good. Regular fluid drain and fills help but there is a lot less particulates due to less moving parts and less wear and tear on the CVT compared to an AT setup. The problem I see is that there is no recommended CVTF interval for US spec cars and a lot of us are skeptical of lifetime. Personally I would just do it at the same time I do coolant changes. But I tend to not have my cars that long.
  12. I’m in talks with Honda now regarding the electrical issues on the infotainment now that we are out of warranty. Curious what happens. Part of me wants the thing to blow up so I can tell my wife told ya so.
  13. My understanding is that the planetary Toyota design has virtually no wear and tear. Whereas when the CVT chain slips for whatever reason, it grenades. Also it appears that nobody will fix the CVT. Which is potentially an $8000+ repair.
  14. I believe they have the figure for the Crosstrek PHEV somewhere around 14 miles on 100% electric charge (which is up to like 55-65mph?) but this is probably under ideal circumstances where you aren't using heat or AC. It's a combination. Once you go over a certain percentage of throttle input, the gas engine kicks in (and will stay on for a few minutes to bring the ICE up to temperature). The way the two hybrid motors work is that they act as an assist. Fortunately the Fog Lights aren't as important here. My lights in the 2011 OB were kind of weak, but the LED's in the 2019 Forester are significantly brighter. (I also changed the OEM Fogs to a heavy-intensity bulb like Silverstars for more lumination) Cool, that makes me feel better. I read on the Ascent forum that they're using Honeywells, I forgot about that. Anyway, over on the Forester forums, I posted a little 6-month ownership/leasing recap of my Premium: https://www.subaruforester.org/threads/first-service-complete-a-6-month-retrospective-on-my-premium.804272/ @covertrussian If you're interested in it, I'd go see if you can test drive the Crosstrek PHEV. I was interested in it mostly just for the "technology demo" of the Subieyota mashup, and I think they did a great job this time - it's just a touch too small. It's also on the more expensive side - it was just shy of 40k and it only comes in one trim. The one thing that Toyota's got going for it is that they offer a hybrid variant for every trim - like on the RAV4. Unfortunately for Toyota, the RAV4 drives dull in my opinion. The PHEV at my local dealer was sold and therefore you couldn't go in it or drive it. I like that they're truthful and honor the "gtfo, it's someone else's car" approach. I found a copy of someone's driver's license in the Honda Pilot we bought back in 2016 - which means it had to happen between the date I left the deposit on the car and the date we picked it up. Wasn't happy about that, and the extra miles, but they tried to make it right by throwing in a few important accessories, like a free trailer hitch. $500 apology accepted. Looking quickly at the price differences between the top-tier Crosstrek and Forester, I wouldn't be surprised when or if they offer a Forester Hybrid that it might kiss $40-45k. Which, again, might be worth it anyway if I'm about to drop close to $40k on a Touring Outback anyway. It's tough comparing the Outback XT and a non-existent unicorn Forester Hybrid. I'll get my damn unicorn one day. And no, not the turbo Baja stickshift. lol.
  15. Actually, no. I had a pretty long chat with my wife a few months ago before I ended up leasing a 2019 Forester, and because she already owns a third-row SUV we decided we really didn't need 2 of them. The Foz is pretty cool, but there've been a few times I've wanted the longer profile of the Outback cargo area. I just love the efficiency of the hybrid - taking my almost constant city braking and changing it into energy for propulsion, and being able to plug it in at night and at work to stay in electric mode and save wear-and-tear on the ICE. I imagine the brake pads last longer, too. I agree with you - I love the idea of the planetary CVT because that's been established in the Prius line for over a decade now... My biggest concern about the hybrid is that the Crosstrek hybrid has no spare tire, and I drive through a pretty dumpy city on my way to work, so that's the last thing I want. I'm sure eventually we'll find an Outback Hybrid, but I was hoping for a Foz Hybrid at the midcycle refresh. There's rumors abound already for some type of mid-SUV type of hybrid coming in 2021/2022, but I don't know if they mean Calendar Year or Model Year. It would seem that if the Fozzy was the next Hybrid target - since they already offer one in Europe and Japan apparently - that would be in line with the Model Year 2021 Foz, and the 2022 would be more in line with the Leggy / OB. Now, the Crosstrek is about a full second faster for 0-60 on the Hybrid. But the 2019 Foz does it in over 9 seconds; the 2018 did it in the 8's, and the 2018 XT did it in under 7. That's a big difference. I wonder if they did this for longevity of the CVT? 9+ seconds is an eternity merging onto the highway. Around down I sure don't feel like I'm low on power... but I guess I'm only getting up to 35-40 in the city before it's another red light. For me I can't see myself keeping my Foz at the end of the lease because: 1. I got a Premium and miss some of the Limited features I had 2. I want ventilated seats 3. I drive around 85+% city, so a hybrid is perfect for me. 4. Auto lane centering! on the newer models. If I had a giant driveway I'd probably get that Ascent, but because I'm in a suburb outside of NYC, real estate and land is stupid expensive. As a result I have a 4 car driveway that must have had 4 "sedans" in mind when they made it (before we bought it), because I would only have about 3" between the two cars if I parked them on the extreme sides of the driveway. I'm curiously watching the new Outback XT's also, but I'm concerned about the 2.4T engine's long-term ownership as I've never had a turbo car before and everyone seems to complain about having blown the turbo around 100k. I could see myself going to a Fozzy Hybrid in 2021 MY when my lease is up, but if there's no spare tire I'd have to put run-flats on that sucker which seems counter intuitive to hybrids. If no Fozzy Hybrid I'd have to really toss and turn about either going for an OB Touring or Touring XT or going for a Limited or Touring Foz at the refresh... I'm trying to keep track on my phone in iNotes about how often I need that extra cargo space. It's only been like 10 times in the 6 months of "leasing" it, but it's a pain to switch with the Mrs. for her Honda Pilot because of parking permits/decals at our workplace.
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