Brisvegas

Here are 3 random opinions ... (the internet is full of them, so take your pick) https://www.oceanworksberkeley.com/blog/does-oil-go-bad-sitting-in-an-engine https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/car-technology/a24676402/old-motor-oil/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/oil-change-truths/ As for me, I just follow the Subaru service manual :lol:

Thanks, I appreciate the update.

I find the fact that you and Dougkelly20, and donglow2 are all "flushers" very interesting. It makes me wonder how many other forum members have had a flush done??? As I have mentioned in my posts, I am not a "lifetime fluid" believer, and will certainly be having a transmission service at about the 60,000 mile mark, but up til now, I have not considered the "flush option." I'm still not fully convinced, but now I'm not 100% against it, like I was in the very recent past. I will be asking a lot of questions to some Subaru transmission experts before I commit either way. One thing I would suggest to you is that you find out "exactly" what transmission service your dealer did on your vehicle. I know you said that they told you that a "flush" was performed, but from what I have read online recently, sometimes "flush" and "drain and fill" seem to be sometimes used interchangeably depending on which person at the dealership people talk to. The basic question that I would be asking is "was a flushing machine used on my vehicle?" ... as per the following link https://www.transmissionrepaircostguide.com/what-is-a-transmission-flush/

Damn You donglow2 ... just when I thought I had pretty much decided that flushing was a definite No No, I am now starting to delve deeper into the subject and beginning to have second thoughts :lol: https://www.torquenews.com/14093/sealed-automatic-transmission-flush-deception-revealed-mechanic https://advancedtransmission.com/2019/04/29/transmission-repair-do-whats-best-for-vehicle/

Thanks for the interesting post. I agree about your thoughts on "Lifetime fluid" ... in my opinion that is just a marketing gimmick by manufacturers that is designed to give a prospective buyer the impression of lower maintenance costs. I also share your wariness on some dealership's "expertise" to perform a transmission fluid change; and my plan was when I reach 100,000 kms (and most of my driving is highway) that I would do a lot of homework to see if the dealer (or independent mechanic) I choose, knows what they are doing. I'm not completely sold on a "flush" but I appreciate your input. The one point that I do tend to disagree with you is on not using Subaru CVT fluid. Perhaps I am being a victim of more corporate marketing, but it does make sense to me that car makers have specific requirements for their transmission fluid ... but like you, I have no proof of that assertion.

Don't get me wrong ... if you read my initial post, I clearly stated that having a debate about flushes is good. I didn't post the article in question because I necessarily agreed with it ... but merely as an example of what I have heard quite a few people say about flushing a transmission. I am very open to hearing what you, and any other forum members post on the subject. One comment I will make on your video link, is that unless I am mistaken, the Toyota transmission discussed is not a CVT, so we are not truly comparing apples with apples

I would be very interested if it was a "flush" or a "drain and fill" because as I mentioned, "flushing" a transmission has it's fair share of detractors, as can be seen from the following link ... http://mygarageairdrie.ca/services-pricing/maintenance-services/services-that-you-dont-need-transmission-flushes/

Wow ... 4 trans FLUSHES .... that might create some debate around here (and in my humble opinion debate is a good thing). On the numerous previous posts on this forum there is divided opinion as to whether or not a simple drain and fill is needed on our "lifetime" CVT's ... and now you are advocating flushes, which I have seen a lot of negative thoughts about on "normal" transmissions, much less on a CVT :)

thanks

That tends to sum up my situation. I have pretty much decided on the iCarsoft CR Pro. It seems to be as good (if not in some cases better) than others in my price range ... and importantly it is obtainable from the only local seller who has returned my emails requesting further information, and who also offers full local support.

Thanks, I appreciate your input. I tend to think your are sadly correct. Despite the Autel and Launch tools (which I have looked at) didn't fully meet your needs at the time ... did you think those (and other similar "medium level scanners") at least offered some level of benefit for the average DIYer??

I have a question about OBD2 scanners. I know that no American forum members will be able to answer my main question, but I thought that if I could get an answer on my associated question then it might help me. I will ask the associated question first. It concerns as to whether or not American made 2016 year Gen 6 Legacy 3.6R's are fully compatible with the below listed Scanner tools. I mean by "fully compatible" that the scanner can read all the systems that they both advertise. I ask that question because even though these scanners (and all other similar scanners that I have investigated) state that a particular car maker is "covered" ... that doesn't necessarily mean all the individual models, and all particular years of the vehicles in that car maker's inventory are covered. Specifically I'd be interested in if American 2016 year Gen 6 3.6R Legacy's are 100% compatibility with these scanners. This then leads to my main question regarding our Australian equivalent of your Legacy. Subaru couldn't use the name "Legacy" here because that name is copyrighted by a famous charity ... so Subaru brands the Australian models as a "Liberty." I have tried emailing both the below scanner's manufacturers asking about the compatibility of our Liberty, but have not received an acknowledgment, or a reply. So I rightly or wrongly figure that if the American 2016 year 3.6R's were compatible, then I would be "reasonably hopeful" that our "Liberty's" would also be similarly compatible. My theory is that the computer modules that control the OBD outputs on your Legacy would be the same as our Liberty. I should mention that our Liberty's are fully imported from Japan, and not assembled here .... so I am assuming that the computer modules in your vehicles would be the same as with our fully imported Japanese made vehicles .... if anyone can prove, or disprove that assumption I would be extremely grateful to hear it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4P7du0G7m

I don't think 1/4 tank will cause any problems .... running consistently on "empty" on the other hand, might be another story.

Love it mate .... I can't wait to hear you eventually report back on the big 300,000 mile turnover. I hope to emulate your achievement ... but taking my relatively low annual mileage into account, I will probably "turnover" before my speedometer does ... but posts like yours, and from other satisfied "high milers," encourages me to continue to "aim high"

That's a great post by that JMP guy .... and thanks to you for bringing it up. Living in Australia means it can't help me personally, but it is a great idea. I'd like to see it happen here as well.