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I gave my downpipe away for free to the guy who bought my car...

If that's the case, these companies have some very interesting ideas on what it means for something to "work"

The conspiracy theorist in me makes me suspect that Nameless was in cahoots with English racing to attempt some lame cover up of this overboosting issue. From what very quick investigation I've done it would appear that English does actually know how to tune cars properly, so the only way a tuning monstrosity like this makes sense is if they were purposely doing all they could to prevent overboosting, at the expense of everything else. Makes me wonder who the customer is here?

This is exactly where I've been throughout this whole mess since my living/financial situation changed and I decided to sell my LGT after I had placed the order for the DP and paid for it. Now I'm stuck with a brand new $600+ hunk of metal that I doubt I could even unload for half that.

Seriously, what the hell is going on here.

Though I agree that seeing the complete logs would be ideal, I'm not sure how else we would interpret the above quote from Nameless apart from the boost being uncontrolled. As fahr_side mentioned, running a leaky stock BPV is not a solution, it's a bandaid. What this test did APPEAR to show us is that there are very negligible differences between the old design of the downpipe and the new design, which was a sticking point and frustrating situation for many of us who participated in the group buy and felt that we did not get what we paid for. It seems that the design change does not significantly impact performance (and could help, though I'd be hesitant to latch onto those specifics too much). There does however remain the issue of whether or not this uncontrolled boost goes against the claims by Nameless of the downpipe offering a "more consistent boost curve and no boost creep." I feel those claims were likely over confident on Nameless' part and needed more in-depth testing of all setups before being put out there, but I don't think there was malicious intent behind them. I also think anyone would have trouble making a legal case against them on these grounds given all of the variables involved.

To your knowledge, was the shop (Procom) in contact with Nameless during the tuning process?

So the answer is reverting back to the stock BPV, leaking boost and making the turbo work harder and less efficiently? That's as ridiculous as the "solution" of running a more restrictive exhaust. Nothing but bandaids.

Incorrect, which can be verified by reading through the thread here. They did not acknowledge the difference at first (despite answering OTHER questions that were posted) and when pushed on the issue said it was a slight cosmetic difference and then further stated that they have seen good results with the design.

I can only speak for myself here, but the primary issue I have is the redesign of the group buy piece. Which, by the way, wasn't even brought up by Nameless in the first place, it was noticed by someone examining pictures of the two side by side. This is unacceptable to me. It was a cost-cutting measure and should have been mentioned by Nameless before anyone had sent in non-refundable deposits. While we were aware that each piece was hand-made and subject to slight variations, this was an intentional change in the design of the unit in an effort to make it easier/cheaper for the manufacturer and nothing else. We PAID FOR the original design and didn't receive it, but being desperate for a well-made and well-performing downpipe, I (and I assume others) trusted Nameless when they stated they had seen good results with the redesign (shall I link the post again?).

Seconded. I'm not interested in sob stories about "hate mail" I'm interested in results. At the very least Nameless should be posting here directly instead of us hearing secondhand through people contacting them. I guarantee there is phone service wherever these guys are off racing and it takes all of 30 seconds to logon to the site and post "hey guys, we know you're frustrated, we're hoping to be able to test this around October blah blah blah" - this game of telephone makes the situation look worse on Nameless' side. Once again I'm going to ask, where are the "good results" that Nameless claimed they received with this design? While additional testing that is being planned in this thread is certainly welcome/needed, why don't we have information from the testing already done? Original Post

This. I wonder where these results are? This whole ordeal has been incredibly frustrating.

Does it count as a find if we're selling it?

Ugh, just when I decide to sell mine...

This sums up my point beautifully. I haven't bothered to post in the thread on the other site because they've already drank the Kool-Aid and are beyond reasoning.