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on my subaru its clean with the inverted filter on top of the engine...on the kia i still have to make a mess pulling the cartridge filter out of this abomination of engineering (below)...it does have a lip that you can crack the cap and let it drain prior to pulling it off all the way...the kia is also consuming oil but at a lower rate which kia says is within its spec (1qt / 1k+ miles = normal)...this seems like BS to me...i have to keep an eye on it cause the low oil sensor does not come on until the engine is dry...have read this on their forums...the subaru low oil light comes on around 1qt low...the kia housing below started to leak at 41k miles recently...i replaced it myself cause they couldn't find the leak but also wanted to charge me $130 for a "modification fee" for the fumoto valve...i didn't pay it and replaced the part myself...wasn't sure if the housing was the issue or the double port gasket or there was a crack so i bought the whole housing...i knew the leak was coming from there cause it starts higher than the fumoto (which was dry inside the drain port) as well as higher than the garbage seal job on the oil pan...torque setting for the 4 bolts is 15 ft*lbs and the metal bolt sleeves don't allow it to be tightened any extra so when that double port rubber gasket compresses enough it leaks...planned failure...vs just using a can filter with a gasket that gets replaced each time...POS design

i am aware of the recall but dealers won't even be notified till May so it won't be able to happen yet anyway...plus they estimate 1% of 427,407 vehicles have the defect...just engage the parking brake till then and bring it to a less slimey dealer...kia was not my choice but it's also not my daily driver...i would have went with toyota, honda, mazda and maybe subaru (if i felt like i wouldn't end up consuming oil again)...i don't trust the kia to go into high mileage but i guess we are going to find out...and if it doesn't get to 200k miles it will be the last kia we buy...i have a fumoto on the kia and on the subaru...has never leaked on either vehicle so i'm not too concerned with the gasket material...oil goes right back into the jug it came from...clean oil changes for the subaru...kia is messier because of the stupid oil filter housing...not sure how much the threads of the fumoto extend into the pan as i've never bothered to pull it back out to measure or to see if any additional oil comes out upon removal...i would also consider using valvomax https://www.valvomax.com/collections/all-products but i don't like how you need to use an additional fitting to open the valve https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2024/RCLRPT-24V214-9846.PDF https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2024/RMISC-24V214-6943.pdf

thanks...i'll take a spin through it during lunch if the brakes are being applied in my subaru then they make some very good pads cause i think i've only had the brakes done 2 or 3 times over 235k miles

thanks...i'll check that website out when the time comes...do you know what that corner braking feature is called?...i'd like to read up on it a little

that's good news...i spend a lot of time in the car so the more comfortable it is the better... my wife has a '22 telluride sx...we have a now 6 year old, one 65lb dog and one 75 lb dog...the telluride is pretty nice although i don't drive it a ton...but i do as much of the maintenance as i can...i really dislike the kia dealers though...they will do everything they can to get out of warranty work...the car has 41k miles and it started leaking from the stupid plastic oil filter housing...i bring it in and they can't locate the leak and did nothing but they want to charge me $130 "modification fee" for having a fumoto valve...i didn't end up paying it and just replaced the housing myself...i also think it's starting to consume oil a little but it's within their consumption tolerances...i just did an engine flush and cleaned the intake valves with the last oil change when i replaced the housing so hopefully that helps...i'm going to replace the pcv valve and install a j&l oil separator this weekend hopefully...other than that the windshield glass is thin/weak...first windshield didn't make it through it's first new england winter...everything else has been fine...very good tech but it has too much for my liking but i guess all the new cars do at this point...i would love a volvo wagon but i think it would kill me over time with repairs for how much i drive do anyone run an oil separator/catch can on their legacy?...i'm debating on installing one on my mom's outback

good to know about the usa/japan models...also good point about the head room...i think i had read that as well but haven't sat in one yet...i am the same height so i'm probably going to remove it from my list...i didn't know that the brakes are used on turns either...seems like a waste...the legacy brake pads have lasted a long time i have found...i'll probably pick up a fumoto valve and do my own oil changes...i was looking at the accessories for the cx-5...any recommendations for OEM vs aftermarket accessories?...i would get mud flaps, all weather floor mats, cargo tray, trailer hitch and the cargo cover...i'm thinking smartliners for the mats and cargo tray...trailer hitch OEM...cargo cover aftermarket...mud flaps i'm not sure if i would go OEM or aftermarket

thanks...i am leaning that way at the moment...it seems like i can get most of what i want out of it and i can get leather and seat memory at a lower price point than other choices...it will have more cargo room than the legacy...only 1.8 cu ft of volume less than the outback...no cvt and carplay would be nice as well...i also like that the rear seat is a trifold vs 60/40...they are less expensive than a rav4 or crv...cx-50 have to get into a higher trim for the same options i want, i hear the seats are not that comfortable and there isn't much more cargo room than the cx-5 (+0.6 cu ft)...also there's a mazda dealer 1 mile from home and i had great luck with my 05 mazda 6 into high mileage...hoping the legacy will top the 6's mileage when i unload it i would love a tsx wagon but i'd be going back in tech as well as have to find one down south that hasn't seen salt...as far as sedans go the only 1 that would be decent would be the integra...the integra is basically the same as the civic but it does have the option for memory seats...i was surprised by the amount of cargo room the civic hatch/integra has

my list fluctuates...probably won't test drive all of them...trying to find a good mix of reliability, gas mileage, low to the ground and storage is not easy...especially when you want more cargo floor area (not volume) and there aren't many wagons left to buy...i'm leaning more towards another subaru but i just don't want another oil guzzler which it seems is the case when they get into high mileage unless you run conventional oil crossover suvs *-honda crv ex-l (for leather and seat memory) (2011-2015, 2016-2022, 2023+) -honda hrv ex-l awd (for leather NO seat memory) (2023+) -mazda cx-50 premium plus (for leather and seat memory) (2022+) *-mazda cx-5 2.5s preferred (for leather and seat memory) (2017+) (like preferred for 17" wheels) *-subaru outback limited (for leather and seat memory) (2020+) (on the list reluctantly) -subaru forester touring (for leather and seat memory) (2018-2023, 2024+) (on the list reluctantly) *-toyota rav 4 xle premium + weather package (for leather and seat memory) (2015-2017, 2018+) older wagonish choices *-acura tsx sportwagon (for leather and seat memory) (2011-2015) -toyota venza xle (for leather and seat memory) (2009-2015) -honda crosstour or honda accord crosstour ex-l (for leather and seat memory) (2010-2015) sedans -acura integra A spec with tech package (for leather and seat memory) (2023+) -honda accord (2018-2022, 2023+) (NO leather NO memory seat unless hybrid ex-l) -honda civic hatch ex-l or sedan touring (for leather NO seat memory) (2021+) -mazda 3 preferred (for leather and seat memory) (2019+) -mazda 6 grand touring (for leather and seat memory) (2014-2021) -toyota avalon 6cyl limited (for leather and seat memory) (2018+) -toyota camry xle (for leather NO seat memory) (2017-2023, 2024+)

we have these in my wife's car...i am impressed for the price i would also buy & install a fumoto oil drain valve and buy the brass nipple and some vinyl tubing...very clean oil changes

not taking it off...takes 5 minutes to install and 5 minutes to remove...will remove if i have to take it in...i do all my own oil changes...and i do know what you mean, kia sucks...i am 100% sure this will be our last kia...i'm not dealing with the bullsh!t they pull just to get warranty work done...i have my own first experience where they wanted to charge me $130 "modification fee" for a fumoto valve when i asked them to replace the oil filter housing under warranty cause it was leaking...they couldn't locate the leak and did nothing but they still wanted to charge me the modification fee....didn't pay it...so i decided to pay for the part myself and install it myself vs have to go through the process of removing the fumoto and wasting oil or trying to find a dealer that is farther from home and isn't going to penalize me for having something on my car that makes my life easier and clearly isn't the cause the leak since it's totally dry inside the valve port but everything else around it is drenched in oil...so on top of the autostop eliminator i would have to remove the fumoto as well if i actually bring it in to kia which i hope to never do again but judging by their reputation i'm guessing i will have to very easy actually...i have seen people install a jumper too but i didn't want to have to go back in there if it came loose...this is a much more solid install

yes...bought it new in 2013...getting approx. 600 miles per quart on this baby!

235k miles and still rolling...have to get to sept. 2026 for my wife to pay off her car then i can look at a new car...let's see if it can make it that far...getting around 600mi/qt for oil at the moment

2013 legacy 2.5 premium white daily driver with 235k miles male - 43 civil engineer project manager first oil guzzling subaru mods: fumoto valve...that's about it just trying to kick it down the road till my wife is out of her payments so i can get a new car

i installed the autostop eliminator on my wife's telluride to give the button memory...on the telluride others have disabled it by pushing the button down and jamming something along the edge of the button to keep it depressed so it stays off...could try something similar i would imagine...just hold the button down shut the car off and turn it back on and see if it stays disabled...i chose the plug & play route cause i didn't want the hassle should it need warranty work

joined 6/24/2013 but don't come on too much...only when the car is having issues for the most part