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With the following so far. 1. No Nav system 2. No HID's, even though cars with the same price have them ie. Audi and Acura. 3. The instruments on the steering wheel do not have backlighting. This really sucks at night, and it not a pleasing omission in this class of vehicle.
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What brochure do you have...the small introductory bi-fold one? This is just an overview of some of the key features of the car. I have read somewhere that NAV will be a U.S. option for the Legacy. The steering wheel lighting I do not know about (maybe some of the "Mate's" out west can fill us in?). I have a feeling that more Subaru news will be announced at the next big U.S. Auto Show (Chicago and New York).
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Yeah, I went to the need-desire website and requested one and I got it in the mail today. They have a picture of the interior inside, and a description of features of the various models on the back. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of things I like about it, but the above are biggies for me. *edit* And I hope you're right about the Nav system, but if they planned on offering it, I can only assume that they'd put it in the brochure.
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what no HID?? you gotta be kidding me [size=7]subaru is officially making a lot of people dissapointed about legacy by not having features that 30G car should have as either standard or option[/size]

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this actually is pissing me off even though i can get "wanna be HID bulbs and make it look like HID" now i have to rethink about legacy because i can get other cars with better features with same money :evil: now STi is first car that i wanna get on my list

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I'd buy an aftermarket NAV system, or wait a model year for some options. The DVD NAV in the 2004 Acura models is amazing. You simply talk to it, and it finds directions, phone #'s, points of interest, etc. With built in BlueToothâ„¢, it makes the NAV option quite appealing. This is the future of navigation systems. Not to mention, Acura has DVD NAV and OnStarâ„¢. I still want a Legacy, though.
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[quote name='team23jordan']this actually is pissing me off even though i can get "wanna be HID bulbs and make it look like HID" now i have to rethink about legacy because i can get other cars with better features with same money :evil: now STi is first car that i wanna get on my list[/quote] Dude, the STi and the GT are not even REMOTELY the same car. Personally I am trying to get away from my WRX sedan because it feels cheap and small to me now. If you want an STi, then you are looking for performance and nothing else. If you want a GT then you are looking for a certain level of refinement and creature comforts integrated into a car that can lay some serious smackdown on the road. HID's are not that big of a deal. I can put some in myself. Be happy that we got projector lamps at all. Oh, and how the hell are you gonna afford the insurance on an STi? I was scared of the insurance when I was going to buy one and I am almost 30. Don't get me wrong, I hope you get whatever you want.
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I got the same brochure, and got so geeked I couldn't even see straight. Then again, I don't care about HIDs, nav, or backlit steering wheel instruments, though I admit to not knowing what that final item is. I thought about other cars with the same features for the same money, but thought of features those cars don't have, that the Legacy GT does: Great looks Killer performance All-wheel drive I'm sold, but y'all already knew that. :D A well-designed projector system (I'm used to the Prodrive lights) can be excellent, particularly with the addition of some Philips VisionPlus bulbs. Kevin
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[quote name='gtguy']I got the same brochure, and got so geeked I couldn't even see straight. Then again, I don't care about HIDs, nav, or backlit steering wheel instruments, though I admit to not knowing what that final item is. I thought about other cars with the same features for the same money, but thought of features those cars don't have, that the Legacy GT does: Great looks Killer performance All-wheel drive I'm sold, but y'all already knew that. :D Kevin[/quote] So you are getting a wagon Kevin? What do you need the space for? I am considering getting one but I just don't know if it's the right image for me. I have a dog and need to be able to carry things for the new house. But I just can't seem to get over the hump.
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[quote name='Skylabâ„¢']When the Acura Integra debuted with projector beams, wasn't that considered revolutionary back then? I though the idea of tiny round headlights would look rather funny...and it did, for a bit...just like the WRX's bug-eyed lights![/quote] The 300ZX was using projectors for the low beams starting in 1990. I don't know who/what used projectors before then.
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[quote name='Dr. Zevil']So you are getting a wagon Kevin? What do you need the space for? I am considering getting one but I just don't know if it's the right image for me. I have a dog and need to be able to carry things for the new house. But I just can't seem to get over the hump.[/quote] I'm a cyclist, and carry my bike in the back, rather than on the roof, where it makes noise and catches bugs. Image, schmimage. The wagon looks better IMHO, and the seats fold down. I'll never drive a sedan again, now that I'm used to the wagon's versatility. :lol: Kevin
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[quote name='gtguy'][quote name='Dr. Zevil']So you are getting a wagon Kevin? What do you need the space for? I am considering getting one but I just don't know if it's the right image for me. I have a dog and need to be able to carry things for the new house. But I just can't seem to get over the hump.[/quote] I'm a cyclist, and carry my bike in the back, rather than on the roof, where it makes noise and catches bugs. Image, schmimage. The wagon looks better IMHO, and the seats fold down. I'll never drive a sedan again, now that I'm used to the wagon's versatility. :lol: Kevin[/quote] Yeah, I totally hear what you're saying, but I just don't think I will be able to bring myself to buy a wagon. I just don't know what's wrong with it or me. I know that it would be an incredible value, but something inside wants me to feel like I am hanging onto the sports car. Decisions, decisions.
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[quote name='Dr. Zevil']Yeah, I totally hear what you're saying, but I just don't think I will be able to bring myself to buy a wagon. I just don't know what's wrong with it or me. I know that it would be an incredible value, but something inside wants me to feel like I am hanging onto the sports car. Decisions, decisions.[/quote] Think of it as a sports car with a backpack. :lol: Kevin
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[quote name='Dr. Zevil']The more I look at it, the more I like it. Now if it would just come without those 4 inch tall roof rails. Those things are hideous.[/quote] The 4" rails are to visually help with the 4" extended bumpers. Duh! ;)
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[quote name='Dr. Zevil'][quote name='team23jordan']this actually is pissing me off even though i can get "wanna be HID bulbs and make it look like HID" now i have to rethink about legacy because i can get other cars with better features with same money :evil: now STi is first car that i wanna get on my list[/quote] Dude, the STi and the GT are not even REMOTELY the same car. Personally I am trying to get away from my WRX sedan because it feels cheap and small to me now. If you want an STi, then you are looking for performance and nothing else. If you want a GT then you are looking for a certain level of refinement and creature comforts integrated into a car that can lay some serious smackdown on the road. HID's are not that big of a deal. I can put some in myself. Be happy that we got projector lamps at all. Oh, and how the hell are you gonna afford the insurance on an STi? I was scared of the insurance when I was going to buy one and I am almost 30. Don't get me wrong, I hope you get whatever you want.[/quote] yah i know they are totally different car i kinda said that whole thing because i wanted Subaru to read it

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[quote name='team23jordan'][/quote] yah i know they are totally different car i kinda said that whole thing because i wanted Subaru to read it[/quote] Uh, not that I'm into bubble bursting, but the odds that Subaru is monitoring this site are infinitesimal. The odds that they will react to anything written here are even smaller. Sorry. Kevin
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just found this on subaru.com [quote]DETROIT, January 5, 2004 - Subaru of America Inc., the only car company that provides Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive as standard equipment on every vehicle in its product line, has introduced the 2005 Legacy 2.5 GT Sedan and Wagon. The most powerful Legacy ever offered in the U.S. market, the 2005 Legacy 2.5 GT is powered by a new 250-horsepower intercooled/turbocharged boxer engine. Simultaneous with the introduction of the 2005 Legacy 2.5 GT to the media, Subaru of America will reveal product details to consumers on a new Internet micro site, with an address that suggests the brand's premium performance evolution - [url]www.Need-Desire.com[/url]. The 2005 Legacy 2.5 GT will lead a thoroughly revised model line that will include the Legacy 2.5 GT Limited Sedan and Wagon, which feature additional luxury content. Legacy 2.5i and Legacy 2.5i Limited models, both available as a sedan and wagon, are powered by a naturally aspirated 2.5-liter boxer engine that provides enhanced response for 2005. With a distinctive fusion of style, performance and function, Legacy 2.5 GT will deliver on the promise of a premium driving performance experience. "The 2005 Legacy 2.5 GT is designed to provide the kind of 'sensuous performance' that truly sets it apart from mainstream models," said Fred Adcock, Executive Vice President, Subaru of America, Inc. "Legacy 2.5 GT has been designed to give the driver the kind of power, performance and control that instills premium performance cars with distinct and memorable brand identity," he added. Built on a new version of the company's proven Ring-Shaped Reinforcement Frame safety structure, the 2005 Legacy models will feature as standard equipment side impact air bags, new side curtain air bags and new intelligent dual-stage deployment front air bags. Subaru designed the fourth-generation Legacy to express its more dynamic performance and nimbleness. The pronounced wedge body shape conveys a low and stable presence, accentuated by aerodynamic side ground effects and standard 17-inch alloy wheels on Legacy 2.5 GT and 16-inch alloy wheels on other Legacy models. The wheelbase of the 2005 Legacy has been increased from 104.3 inches to 105.1 inches and overall length has been increased by just under two inches for the sedan and wagon models. The sedan registers a coefficient of drag (Cd) of 0.28 and the wagon 0.30. A functional hood scoop supplies outside air to the engine-mounted intercooler. High-Performance Intercooled / Turbocharged Engine The 2005 Legacy 2.5 GT is powered by an intercooled and turbocharged 2.5-liter 4-cylinder boxer engine featuring Active Valve Control System (AVCS) variable valve timing technology. The engine produces 250 horsepower @ 5,600 rpm and 250 lb-ft. of peak torque @ 3,600 rpm. The 2005 Legacy 2.5 GT will offer a choice between a smooth-shifting 5-speed manual transmission or an all-new 5-speed electronic direct control automatic transmission with the SPORTSHIFT feature for manual control when desired. The driver can choose to shift manually using the console shift handle or shift buttons on the MOMO®-designed steering wheel. Performance-Bred Chassis A new, stiffer unitized body structure makes greater use of aluminum and high-strength steel, as well as advanced construction techniques including hydroforming and tailored-blank welding. Suspension, braking and steering have been optimized to complement the powertrain performance in Legacy 2.5 GT. The proven MacPherson type strut front suspension uses all new components, including aluminum lower L-arms that reduce unsprung weight. The multilink rear suspension attaches to a new, hydroformed steel sub-frame for added rigidity. A wider track and revised geometry enhance handling and stability. A 4-wheel disc Anti-lock Brake System (ABS) with Electronic Brake-force Distribution (EBD) is standard equipment on all 2005 Legacy models. Legacy 2.5 GT features larger front brake rotors than other Legacy models, as well as ventilated rear discs (solid discs on other models). Legacy 2.5 GT models roll on standard 17 x 7-inch aluminum-alloy wheels with 215/45 R17 all-season tires. The rack-and-pinion steering system has been redesigned for quicker response, greater precision and improved feel. Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive Subaru offers three different Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive systems in the 2005 Legacy models, each tailored to the type of transmission. With the 5-speed manual transmission, the system uses a viscous-coupling locking center differential to distribute the power 50/50 front to rear. Slippage at either set of wheels will send more power to the other set of wheels. Legacy 2.5 GT models equipped with the optional 5-speed automatic transmission use a system called Variable Torque Distribution (VTD). A planetary center differential works with an electronically controlled continuously variable hydraulic transfer clutch to manage power distribution. The system normally sends more power to the rear wheels to enhance handling agility, and it continuously adjusts the power distribution in response to driving and road conditions. Legacy 2.5i and Legacy 2.5i Limited models will offer an optional 4-speed automatic transmission, with an AWD system that uses an electronically managed continuously variable transfer clutch to actively control power distribution in response to driving conditions. All-New Interior Designed for True Grand Touring The new Legacy interior design integrates the entire area from the instrument panel and large center panel to the console storage box. The sporty new four-dial instrument panel features an electroluminescent LED (light-emitting diode) gauge display in Legacy 2.5 GT. Standard equipment for the 2005 Legacy 2.5 GT includes a dual-zone automatic climate control system, a combination digital clock and trip computer, performance-design front seats with 4-stage heating and heated exterior mirrors. The standard audio system includes a 120-watt AM/FM stereo, a 6-disc in-dash CD changer and six speakers. Legacy 2.5 GT Limited models add leather-trimmed upholstery, an 8-way power driver's seat and a 4-way power passenger seat. A glass power moonroof is standard on all Legacy GT Limited and Legacy 2.5i Limited models. The dual-panel moonroof on wagon models provides a single large opening when the tilt-up front section and retracting rear section are opened. Review these features, get detailed specs, and view newly released images at [url]www.Need-Desire.com[/url]. [/quote]

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[quote]Uh, not that I'm into bubble bursting, but the odds that Subaru is monitoring this site are infinitesimal. The odds that they will react to anything written here are even smaller [/quote] Sorry, but you are wrong. There are quite a few companies that corportations pay big bucks to to find out what people are saying, and what they want. Be it cars, music, clothes etc. You'd be foolish not to. There are already 113 members here in a few short weeks. If even half of them buy a Legacy you are talking over 1.5 million $$.
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