andrew_l_s Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I determined the WRX kit was a no-go awhile back. Was browsing Diode Dynamics' website today and looked at the BRZ/FRS tail as turn kit and video for the heck of it and...wait...is that the same connector as...the LEGACY?!? http://i.imgur.com/w2ZSlNH.png?1 http://i.imgur.com/NmxXgKH.png?1 Could it really be? *Runs to garage, rips apart trunk* http://i.imgur.com/LzOcYM7.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/VbAqoCb.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/amnyMdI.jpg?1 AWW YEAH!! Placed an order, stay tuned for an update when they arrive...fingers crossed this works...I hate returning things... Lighting Mods: $10 Footwell Illumination | Tail as Turn | Fog as DRL Diode Dynamics C-Lights | RX350 Bi-Xenon Retrofit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT2015Legacy Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Can't wait to see if it works out or not. Let me know if it does as I will add it to the mod/accessories list. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securityguy Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 What is this supposed to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda_One Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 http://www.diodedynamics.com/store/catalog/product/view/id/21610/s/fr-s-brz-tail-as-turn-backup-module/category/622/ Laughing at Oneself and with Other is good for the Soul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securityguy Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Interesting...thanks for the link Row! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Wife has a BRZ and I like this. Thanks for bringing it to my attention! This is the kind of creativity that us Legacy owners need since not much is made specifically for our cars, but usually the more tuner preferred WRX and BRZ models. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog81 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 as long as it doesn't affect cruise control and eyesight vehicle it would be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1692 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 From the link that Rowlette posted- "Please note: since you will be eliminating your turn signal with this mod, your vehicle will think the turn signal bulb is out. To restore normal flashing speed, you will need to change your turn signal flasher module, which is the part that controls flashing speed. The installation is simple- please see our video here. If you already have an LED flasher module, you will not need another one." Since the 2015 flasher is in the ECU and not a separate flasher, I wonder how this will work. I know you can do the in line resistors which will fix this, but it's still a pain having to do that. If it will work normally without the hyper flash, I know this is something I would love to do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTG Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I dont get the point. So this makes the rear tail light act like a typical domestic car. Brake / Turn Signal. Having Red Turn Signal is one of the stupidest things IMO and it is something only allowed in N. America. No Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_l_s Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share Posted August 13, 2015 as long as it doesn't affect cruise control and eyesight vehicle it would be cool. Umm all it does is route the turn signal power to the tail light instead. Shouldn't be an issue. From the link that Rowlette posted- "Please note: since you will be eliminating your turn signal with this mod, your vehicle will think the turn signal bulb is out. To restore normal flashing speed, you will need to change your turn signal flasher module, which is the part that controls flashing speed. The installation is simple- please see our video here. If you already have an LED flasher module, you will not need another one." Since the 2015 flasher is in the ECU and not a separate flasher, I wonder how this will work. I know you can do the in line resistors which will fix this, but it's still a pain having to do that. If it will work normally without the hyper flash, I know this is something I would love to do! If it works, I'll be adding load resistors in to fix this. Whats nice is I'll be able to add them into the module instead of having to cut into the factory wiring harness. Better to cut up a $30 adapter than a $30k car lol. I dont get the point. So this makes the rear tail light act like a typical domestic car. Brake / Turn Signal. Having Red Turn Signal is one of the stupidest things IMO and it is something only allowed in N. America. No Thanks! I've had multiple people mention that it's hard to see my turn signal when I'm braking. They might just be blind or stupid, but I have noticed that just like with LED brake lights, the instant on-off of LED signals is much more noticeable than a fade-on-fade-off incandescent. I could buy plug'n'play load resistors and amber LEDs to switch out the bulbs, but it's $20 for the resistors + $30 for good bulbs = $50. The adapters were $30 + $5 to ship = $35. Plus I can get extra backup lights out of it. To each his own but I personally like the look of it better than a nasty yellow flashing incandescent. If only they'd make everything LED from the factory... Lighting Mods: $10 Footwell Illumination | Tail as Turn | Fog as DRL Diode Dynamics C-Lights | RX350 Bi-Xenon Retrofit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1692 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I'm looking more at something like this where the load resistor isn't required for the LED turn signals. Has anyone tried something like this out? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amber-No-Resistor-Require-7440-CREE-LED-Bulbs-For-Front-Rear-Turn-Signal-Lights-/131263946459?hash=item1e8ff0dedb&vxp=mtr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_l_s Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 Got my modules today, the plug fits perfect! All you have to do is flip 2 wires as the tail/turn signal locations are flipped for the BRZ. Use a pointy object to pry a little tab down and the contacts pop right out of the connectors (pictures coming if I can get something to focus close enough), just flip the positions and push them back in place, super easy. Red wire is tail light, black is turn signal. These get switched on both ends. Before - After http://i.imgur.com/bCPXTQ8.jpg Before - After http://i.imgur.com/pBXKZvU.jpg A load resistor will be needed to prevent hyperflash. Mine should be delivered tomorrow, will add more pics of how those get added. I also plan on converting the old turn signal into either an extra brake or backup light. Not sure which I'll do yet, opinions welcome! Lighting Mods: $10 Footwell Illumination | Tail as Turn | Fog as DRL Diode Dynamics C-Lights | RX350 Bi-Xenon Retrofit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subie-Do Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Any chance you can post a video of your "new" turn signals in action? My vote for what to do with the old turn signal spot would be to convert it to a additional backup light. Might be super bright and annoying? I would be interested to see how bright two backup lights appear on the rear view cam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_l_s Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 Any chance you can post a video of your "new" turn signals in action? My vote for what to do with the old turn signal spot would be to convert it to a additional backup light. Might be super bright and annoying? I would be interested to see how bright two backup lights appear on the rear view cam. Was planning on it, should have it posted tonight Lighting Mods: $10 Footwell Illumination | Tail as Turn | Fog as DRL Diode Dynamics C-Lights | RX350 Bi-Xenon Retrofit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_l_s Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 http://i.imgur.com/kb9mNt3.gif Lighting Mods: $10 Footwell Illumination | Tail as Turn | Fog as DRL Diode Dynamics C-Lights | RX350 Bi-Xenon Retrofit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nybz Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Thats with headlights off right? how would it look at night when they're on and the tails are active? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Thats with headlights off right? how would it look at night when they're on and the tails are active? That looks like the running lights are on. Doesn't matter if the headlights are on or not. The brake light and blinker would share the "bright" tail light. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_l_s Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 Thats with headlights off right? how would it look at night when they're on and the tails are active? GT is correct, tail lights were running in the clip as I had parking lights on. I'll get some more video tonight to show what it looks like in different circumstances (braking, turn signals, etc.) Lighting Mods: $10 Footwell Illumination | Tail as Turn | Fog as DRL Diode Dynamics C-Lights | RX350 Bi-Xenon Retrofit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffreak Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Very interested to do this to my car as well. I'm looking forward to your videos detailing the conversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssTeeAai Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 I dont get the point. So this makes the rear tail light act like a typical domestic car. Brake / Turn Signal. Having Red Turn Signal is one of the stupidest things IMO and it is something only allowed in N. America. No Thanks! ^^^ yes! I'm gonna agree with this guy. Red signals that are also brake lights is the dumbest idea ever and is illegal all over the world except for North America. If you're signalling to merge, and also tapping your brakes, your taillights flash left right left right left right alternating, which confuses drivers behind you. Domestic car manufacturers wire their vehicles like this and it's dumb. It's a DOWNGRADE in my eyes, not an upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securityguy Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 I, personally, like amber turn signals so I'm just going to replace my bulbs with LEDs as has been discussed in another thread. Total cost for FR and RR is $100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_l_s Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 ^^^ yes! I'm gonna agree with this guy. Red signals that are also brake lights is the dumbest idea ever and is illegal all over the world except for North America. If you're signalling to merge, and also tapping your brakes, your taillights flash left right left right left right alternating, which confuses drivers behind you. Domestic car manufacturers wire their vehicles like this and it's dumb. It's a DOWNGRADE in my eyes, not an upgrade. To each their own. When I brake while signaling, all the lights kick on like normal for a split second before the signal goes back to flashing while the other stay lit solid. It's not long enough to prevent it from flashing while quickly tapping the brakes, but enough to make it obvious the brakes are being applied; I'll have a video up at some point demonstrating this. Plus, the 3rd brake light is there for a reason, anyone paying attention shouldn't be confused since this is a fairly common setup in America. Regardless of how it's wired, a massive, bright LED array is in no way a downgrade in comparison to a dim incandescent. Lighting Mods: $10 Footwell Illumination | Tail as Turn | Fog as DRL Diode Dynamics C-Lights | RX350 Bi-Xenon Retrofit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_l_s Posted September 12, 2015 Author Share Posted September 12, 2015 Finally got around to converting the old turn signals into backup lights. Went with these bulbs [ame=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00P5X67PE?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00]Amazon.com: (PACK OF 2) top quality 7440 7441 W21w T20 CREE 30w Auto LED DRL Break Back-up Tail Light 2014 #9gt20sw (White): Automotive[/ame] they're fantastic for the price! I didn't want to splice any wires so I used the same method as the footwell lights. Pull off the connector cover and shove a wire in. This connector on the right side of the trunk is what powers the rear lights, it slides out of the mounting clip: http://i.imgur.com/YZnv5ek.jpg?1 This gray wire is for the backup lights: http://i.imgur.com/PI682gJ.jpg?1 Finished product: http://i.imgur.com/N1CgWaO.jpg?1 Lighting Mods: $10 Footwell Illumination | Tail as Turn | Fog as DRL Diode Dynamics C-Lights | RX350 Bi-Xenon Retrofit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securityguy Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Ok...but all I can say is why:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_l_s Posted September 12, 2015 Author Share Posted September 12, 2015 Ok...but all I can say is why:confused: MOAR LIGHTZ!! The socket was freed up by the tail as turn, why let it go to waste? Plus I might actually be able to see through my extra dark tint backing up at night now Lighting Mods: $10 Footwell Illumination | Tail as Turn | Fog as DRL Diode Dynamics C-Lights | RX350 Bi-Xenon Retrofit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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