driving Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 So bought my 05lgt last year and it came with eibachs/kybs. Previous owner said they ad 20k on both. Prob is they are smooth on small bumps and bottoming out on big ones (suspect shocks are blowen . Ive searched here for days reading different opinions and am leaning toward konis full soft setting for daily here in LA. Roads can never close to be fixed so its really ruff. Option 1 keep eibachs and add konis Option 2 get specb/ lgt and konis. Are spec b and lgt springs truly identical?) Option 3 get pinks and run bilstein rev C's I'm. Looking for a smooth nice handling ride. I do like the ride height of my eibachs but am sure I'm going to have to get some more travel for a better ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Catalyst. Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Go with option 1. The Eibachs aren't well suited for your stock KYBs resulting in increased wear and not a real great ride quality. Full soft on the Konis may result in being bouncy if that is underdamped to the spring rate of the Eibach springs. If you like the ride height of the Eibachs, this is your best option (and can dial out the bounce adjusting from full soft and moving clicks towards firm - just enough to match the spring rate). LGT and spec.B springs are the same. Pinks will be milder drop than your Eibachs, but the USDM spec.B Bils (JDM Rev.C) are underdamped for the pinks. Bilstein HDs would be better suited (firmer). Cost wise just going with the Konis (inserts used with your existing front KYB housings and rears are a replacement), will be the most effective, and satisfy the goals you mentioned. My spec.B [#163] Project Thread with Pictures Get CryoTuned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCwagon Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 I vote for the Konis. Lifetime Warranty. Adjustable. Liveable. Auto-X-able. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dujo Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Option 1. Keep the Eibachs and get Konis. Everyone running around talking about getting Epic springs are buying a remanufacture of the Eibach Pro Kit that is no longer made for the Legacy. These are good springs and it sounds like they've got some life in 'em yet. Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobyscoodle Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyWifezLEGi Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 #1 , I run koni + h tech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cone_Killer Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Koni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCHM1AN Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 If it's comfort you're after, don't get the Bilstein HD/Pink setup. It's a great suspension for aggressive driving and autocross, but you feel every bump in the road. It won't break your back, but it's definitely firm. The drop is nice though. I went from stock to a 2-finger gap front and rear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driving Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 So I'm guessing pink and koni. It just feels like there's no travel in the eibachs. I trimmed bump stop in front maybe have to do the same for the rear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gire Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 If it's comfort you're after, don't get the Bilstein HD/Pink setup. It's a great suspension for aggressive driving and autocross, but you feel every bump in the road. It won't break your back, but it's definitely firm. The drop is nice though. I went from stock to a 2-finger gap front and rear We might be talking about 2 different Bilstein strut versions (I know there are 3 JDM versions and an American version too), but my JDM bilsteins (rev. B)with JDM pink springs are extremely comfortable and have been for 2 years now. It's very stock-like for sure, just more responsive when pushed hard. I chose this set up after running aftermarket iON springs on my stock struts for about 5 years which made for a much harsher ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted March 19, 2013 Moderators Share Posted March 19, 2013 Just go back to stock, man. KYBs and stock springs if you are looking for comfort. If you want more sportiness add konis and stick with stock springs. "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCHM1AN Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 We might be talking about 2 different Bilstein strut versions (I know there are 3 JDM versions and an American version too), but my JDM bilsteins (rev. B)with JDM pink springs are extremely comfortable and have been for 2 years now. It's very stock-like for sure, just more responsive when pushed hard. I chose this set up after running aftermarket iON springs on my stock struts for about 5 years which made for a much harsher ride. It's likely that we're talking about two similarly-named, yet very different setups. The Bilstein HDs I have are the American version and have been paired with JDM Pinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan04103 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Just go back to stock, man. KYBs and stock springs if you are looking for comfort. If you want more sportiness add konis and stick with stock springs. This was the route (Koni/OEMsprings) I took and am quite happy for DD needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 It's likely that we're talking about two similarly-named, yet very different setups. The Bilstein HDs I have are the American version and have been paired with JDM Pinks Didn't you buy yours from mr_hicksta? The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCHM1AN Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Didn't you buy yours from mr_hicksta? Yes I did Here is the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxkita Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Didn't you buy yours from mr_hicksta? This doesn't mean much, as the definition of being an active member of LGT.com, is to have bought something from mr_hicksta. Build my car Boxkita Track days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Yes I did Here is the link He had them revalved to match Pinks, so your experience is not apples-to-apples. This doesn't mean much, as the definition of being an active member of LGT.com, is to have bought something from mr_hicksta. I have sold Josh stuff, but never bought from him! Last man standing! The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehnation Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I was in the same boat, bought a used 05 lgt, it had exact same thing, eibach springs and kyb struts. And they sucked just like you said. I bought the koni yellows, problem solved. The eibach springs with konis = pure awesome. Dont waste your money with new springs, yours should be perfectly fine. Konis are lifetime warranty and adjustable. This is a no brainer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCHM1AN Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 He had them revalved to match Pinks, so your experience is not apples-to-apples. Gotcha. Here are the specs he sent me. I'm not sure how these stack up to the "regular" HDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I had evaluated those plots back when he was considering the switch back to RCE Tarmacs. I found that the high speed compression damping was significantly higher (more stiff) at high piston velocities versus the only Bilstein HD (4th Gen Legacy) data I could find. Everywhere else on the curve was within what I would consider "the noise". The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttnio Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Lifetime warranty on the original owner only ? I vote for the Konis. Lifetime Warranty. Adjustable. Liveable. Auto-X-able. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCHM1AN Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I had evaluated those plots back when he was considering the switch back to RCE Tarmacs. I found that the high speed compression damping was significantly higher (more stiff) at high piston velocities versus the only Bilstein HD (4th Gen Legacy) data I could find. Everywhere else on the curve was within what I would consider "the noise". That sounds about right. Just around town it's noticeably stiffer than stock but it's not horrible. You don't really go "man, that was rough" until you're going down the freeway and hit a crack in the pavement. There's one route I used to take to work that I no longer do, because my car just turns into a teeter-totter and makes you dizzy. On stock suspension it just floated right along without a fuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssbtech Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 There's one route I used to take to work that I no longer do, because my car just turns into a teeter-totter and makes you dizzy. On stock suspension it just floated right along without a fuss Please tell me that's because of the modifications to your shocks and that the unmolested HDs run smoother on rougher roads... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCHM1AN Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I'm not sure, to be honest. If someone knows the damping/rebound information on the stock HDs, I can give you the pdfs that hicksta sent to me from Bilstein for comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I had evaluated those plots back when he was considering the switch back to RCE Tarmacs. I found that the high speed compression damping was significantly higher (more stiff) at high piston velocities versus the only Bilstein HD (4th Gen Legacy) data I could find. Everywhere else on the curve was within what I would consider "the noise". The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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