Have you had a cracked oil pickup tube?

**trepetti** · #1: 02-22-2013, 01:21 PM

I just got the bad news that my 09 LGT threw a rod bearing :-( I have been hearing stories of engines that have been destroyed because of a crack in the oil pickup tube causing massive, instant, catastrophic oil starvation.

Has anyone had this happen to them? Has Subaru stepped up and made the repair?

If this is a chronic issue, I might try to make a formal (possibly legal) complaint. I would be interested to see if this is really a widespread issue.

Let me know your experience.

Thanks

**Underdog** · #2: 02-22-2013, 01:26 PM

Wide-spread enough that there is a very successful aftermarket alternative.

**BarManBean** · #3: 02-22-2013, 01:27 PM

More than one alternative...

**PaSprinter24** · #4: 02-22-2013, 03:36 PM

this caught my eye and just wondering if this pickup tube in the oil pan or is it somewere else? and also wat is the alternative?

**KBGRIZZLY64** · #5: 02-22-2013, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaSprinter24

this caught my eye and just wondering if this pickup tube in the oil pan or is it somewere else? and also wat is the alternative?

Yessir in the oil pan or sits in the oil pan but not attached to it

**LosAngelesLGT** · #6: 02-22-2013, 04:54 PM

Found a crack in the LGT pickup before it was catastrophic. Replaced the OBXT long before waiting for it to crack based on the LGT experience.

http://www.infamousperformance.net/s...aru-Oil/Detail

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**HAMMER DOWN** · #8: 03-03-2013, 12:03 PM

No problem with mine, but will be switching to Killer-B oil pickup. When I replace the OEM oil pan do to rust blisters.

**PaSprinter24** · #9: 03-03-2013, 12:26 PM

so for someone lik me who has just over 50k on his lgt would it be a smart idea to go ahead and change this? sucks theres no way of telling if its a problem or not

**HAMMER DOWN** · #**10:** 03-03-2013, 02:16 PM

You can install a oil pressure gauge. To see if you are in spec. when you're at opt. temp. If your pressure is good, I wouldn't worry about it. Just keep an eye on the oil pressure. Other then that you have to drop the pan & inspect. If you go that far. Mite as well replace it with a part that doesn't have a history of failing.

Or just replace it for your piece of mind, like LosAngelesLGT did with his OBXT, that his wife drives.

Mike

**mwiener2** · #**11:** 03-03-2013, 03:03 PM

This falls under the mis-matched tires will make your tranny explode category. Plenty of people have heard of this, very few have seen it first hand.

I have seen about 8 Killer-B parts with failed welds. I have never seen a failed OEM pickup tube. I take about 1 motor apart a week for the last several years.

**LosAngelesLGT** · #**12:** 03-03-2013, 05:56 PM

I 99.99% agree or differ to Mwiener2's knowledge base but in this instance my experience is cracked LGT pickup at 55k. Replaced OBXT @ 55k just to be sure. Obviously experience may vary. I would be very interested in more information about KB parts failures. I know KB pickups are highly respected in the flight community that is using subaru/fuji motors in their light aircraft.

**mwiener2** · #**13:** 03-03-2013, 07:36 PM

I've seen (and can probably dig up pics) of a KIller-B baffle plate completely fail and let a 2" x 6" piece of metal fall into the oil pan.

The 7 or so Killer-B oil pans I've seen the inside of usually have at least one failed weld.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

My theory is that most OEM pickup tubes are broken when the oil pan is removed. Among the professional engine builders I know and work with, a broken pickup tube is a rare occurrence. It does happen, but not as much as the internet and KillerB want you to think.

**PaSprinter24** · #**14:** 03-03-2013, 08:06 PM

ok so if I have a oil pressure gauge and keep a keen eye on it ill be ok until it goes. I have the gauge wired up and the sandwhich plate sitting in my garage ready for install just waitin to change my oil to throw the plate on. hope that doesn't leak

**blongo804** · #**15:** 03-04-2013, 08:51 AM

Interesting thoughts, mwiener. Personally, I love my KillerB. If it fails, then it fails I guess. We had the engine out already and wanted to hopefully do everything right the first time around. The tube seems less likely to fail than the wimpy looking stock pickup, but we'll see I guess. I think there's about 20-25k on the new engine as I type.

PaSprinter.. The oil pressure gauge will tell you only right now if you're pressure is good. If something were to happen to the pickup tube, once it happens, the engine will go with it. Oil pressure gauges, IMO, are only good for so much with these cars.