Cold start-Whining noise

**subarulegay** · #1: 01-03-2013, 12:05 PM

Guys I need your help,
we've been getting some -20 celcius weather and when ever I start it for the first 5 seconds of the engine running it is as if there is a loud belt whining noize. The belts were changed this summer with gates belts.

Just wondering if there is anything to do to avoid the squealing noise or what could cause it.

**ripemeat** · #2: 01-03-2013, 12:54 PM

tighten the belt a little

**mwiener2** · #3: 01-03-2013, 01:07 PM

It's a common problem. It's not the belts. Never been able to figure out exactly what it is.

**gear_monkey** · #4: 01-03-2013, 01:11 PM

I didn't think it was the belts either because mine did the same thing two days ago and I have just put new belts on myself...if I tighten them anymore I'm afraid they will snap.

**Max Capacity** · #5: 01-03-2013, 01:16 PM

Are you sure it's not the starter hanging up for a couple of seconds ?

That's a common problem too.

You need to grease the starter shaft that the gear slides on to engage the FW.

**robinlsb** · #6: 01-03-2013, 01:35 PM

Not to worry. Mine has always done that, with no problems down the road since new.

It sounds terrible, but the engine is still fine.

**Nolmers06LGT** · #7: 01-03-2013, 01:56 PM

Isn't that the beginning of the TOB failure? When mine went I thought it was a belt squeal at first. Find a vid of the TOB noise to verify its not that.

**robinlsb** · #8: 01-03-2013, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Nolmers06LGT

Isn't that the beginning of the TOB failure? When mine went I thought it was a belt squeal at first. Find a vid of the TOB noise to verify its not that.

Nope

TOB squeal occurs at any Temp

**-Samurai-** · #9: 01-03-2013, 02:35 PM

Mine does this as well. No idea what is is. I had a 2000 Toyota Celica that also did this at very cold temps but never had a problem caused by it. Still a mystery. Sounds really bad but goes away in like 3 seconds. Very odd.

**Nolmers06LGT** · #**10:** 01-03-2013, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by robinlsb

Nope

TOB squeal occurs at any Temp

Ahh.. So it was just a coincidence that my TOB went when the weather started to cool. Mine sounded the worst when it was cold.. but the cold had nothing to do with it? Interesting.

**PeterJMC** · #**11:** 01-03-2013, 02:42 PM

Mebe a freezing idler pulley due to cold temps?

**robinlsb** · #**12:** 01-03-2013, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nolmers06LGT

Ahh.. So it was just a coincidence that my TOB went when the weather started to cool. Mine sounded the worst when it was cold.. but the cold had nothing to do with it? Interesting.

Drive until it is warm. Then start it up, listen, put in gear. If it whines TOB. If not, then go right ahead and replace parts for no reason

**Nolmers06LGT** · #**13:** 01-03-2013, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by robinlsb

Drive until it is warm. Then start it up, listen, put in gear. If it whines TOB. If not, then go right ahead and replace parts for no reason

Thanks for the sarcasm.. Good thing I already replaced the TOB 3 months ago.. and good thing I didn't get your advice then. My TOB disintegrated when I touched it. I'm lucky it waited to spill bearings until AFTER the car was on jackstands.

Once again, thanks for the help!

**robinlsb** · #**14:** 01-04-2013, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Nolmers06LGT

Thanks for the sarcasm.. Good thing I already replaced the TOB 3 months ago.. and good thing I didn't get your advice then. My TOB disintegrated when I touched it. I'm lucky it waited to spill bearings until AFTER the car was on jackstands.

Once again, thanks for the help!

I presumed you knew how to drive a standard shift. My bad

If you are going through TOBs, like they are water, then the problem is with the operator.

If your TOB is toast after three months, then YOU have a problem.

**racso_dor** · #**15:** 01-04-2013, 10:55 AM

increase the volume of your radio while you turn your car on ...abakadabra you hear no more noise