installing hella super tones in 98 legacy

**mbf6182** · #1: 11-25-2012, 02:21 PM

im looking to install hella supertones in my 98 legacy gt I just need to know what to buy. I wanna get the pink ones from subimods.com but the bracket and harness are expensive so i wanted to buy them somewhere else. some of the other sites i looked at where i was going to buy those two parts make you specify the year and make of your car and mines never on that list. Help!! I wanna order the stuff asap

**golunnova** · #2: 11-26-2012, 11:59 AM

I'm not the most hands on car guy out there so I bought the hella super tones / harness / bracket from subimods and the install was clean and simple. I personally felt the convenience was worth the price. Just my 2 cents. Good luck with the install.

**LJ08GT** · #3: 11-26-2012, 03:59 PM

i made my own bracket out of flat steel you can get at any hardware store. Cut to length, drill holes and paint it. I don't know what this said harness is, but i didn't use one of them either. All you need is some wire, spade connectors, ring terminal connectors and butt connectors and the crimping tool. You don't need to use the relay that comes with the horns either because the Suby's already use a relay for horn so you just use the existing horn wires.
A friend and i made 3 brackets for WAY cheaper than it costs for one bracket from subimods.com. Just my opinion.

**Silinc3r** · #4: 11-26-2012, 04:04 PM

^The harness is what you made to wire them up. They just supply it with the additional cost to make it a little easier of an install. And their relays are the best. But I agree it is a lot cheaper to make your own. It's all about the fit and finish.

**mbf6182** · #5: 01-08-2013, 08:52 AM

Ok thanks everybody for the advice. I still haven't ordered them but, its a new year and i've got some extra money. We'll see how it goes

**SBT** · #6: 01-08-2013, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by golunnova

I'm not the most hands on car guy out there so I bought the hella super tones / harness / bracket from subimods and the install was clean and simple. I personally felt the convenience was worth the price. Just my 2 cents. Good luck with the install.

There's a lot of difference between the 2nd Gen install and the 4th Gen install. Hence the OP's 2nd Gen question. I think his concern is that Subimods doesn't list the complete harness, brace and horns setup that they offer for the newer models.

**sti_044** · #7: 01-08-2013, 01:52 PM

Sorry to be off topic, but what is the point of the "relay kit"
I just spliced into my stock horns so I am running stocks and hellas (they might actually be SickSpeed) with no issues what-so-ever. Never understood the purpose of the relay/kit

**Stang70Fastback** · #8: 01-08-2013, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sti_044

Sorry to be off topic, but what is the point of the "relay kit"
I just spliced into my stock horns so I am running stocks and hellas (they might actually be SickSpeed) with no issues what-so-ever. Never understood the purpose of the relay/kit

You don't need a relay when using our horns, because there is already a relay built into the circuit. The purpose of the relay is to allow the full current to travel directly to the horns without it needing to pass through the switch (in this case, the horn button in the steering wheel) first.

Simply putting the switch in line with the main power to the horns means the switch has to be very heavy duty to be able to manage the current, and is less efficient since the resistance of both the switch and the extra wire length will reduce the volume of the horns. (Even regular disc horns in a car draw a surprising amount of power.)

Our cars already have the relay (you should be able to hear it click when you honk the horn button with the stock horns disconnected) so you simply need to swap the old ones with the new ones.

**sti_044** · #9: 01-08-2013, 03:12 PM

oh ok, perfect. Thank you very much for the prompt and detailed response.

**mbf6182** · #**10:** 01-09-2013, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SBT

There's a lot of difference between the 2nd Gen install and the 4th Gen install. Hence the OP's 2nd Gen question. I think his concern is that Subimods doesn't list the complete harness, brace and horns setup that they offer for the newer models.

Yes you are right. Thats what I am concerned about. When I look on installations online its always for 2000 and up. I'm wondering if the wiring is different and so forth. Im a female btw

**SBT** · #**11:** 01-09-2013, 08:55 AM

Sorry... gender non-specific "his" - sorry

**sti_044** · #**12:** 01-09-2013, 01:07 PM

I just tied into the stock horns. super simple!

**SBT** · #**13:** 01-09-2013, 01:53 PM

I'd run a 12V line off the battery into a relay and splice into the stock line to provide the on/off trigger for the Hellas. That way, you're not overloading (amperage-wise) the line to the stock horns. The Subimod setup would work for this, with some minor wiring (lengthened/shortened bits), it's essentially the same setup, just different mounting/connection points.

**monkeyposeur** · #**14:** 01-09-2013, 09:10 PM

I'd like to install some Hellas at some point but I want a toggle switch so I can choose between the stock horns and the Hellas. Silly I know, but I would like to be able to have gentle horns and **** you horns. Probably a pita to wire up.

**subikid90** · #**15:** 01-09-2013, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeyposeur

I'd like to install some Hellas at some point but I want a toggle switch so I can choose between the stock horns and the Hellas. Silly I know, but I would like to be able to have gentle horns and **** you horns. Probably a pita to wire up.

Find a 1st gen steering wheel with the two horn buttons and wire one for the stockers and the other for the hellas. Then you could really f*ck with people and push them both at once...or play music with them haha