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#1: 04-20-2013, 01:20 PM
horrible shuddering idle
 
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Car starts fine
Drives well
Shifts ok
No cel

However, at idle the car acts like its going to stall (occasionally does)
Just started yesterday. Going to upload a video of the shuddering idle to youtube. Will post link/try to embed here afterwards.

Seems like vacuum related, not sure.
Any ideas?

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#2: 04-20-2013, 05:00 PM
 
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Intake gaskets are most likely the problem.

Pcv and maf cleaning fixed this for me though.
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#3: 04-20-2013, 05:47 PM
 
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Could be a bad coil. It won't set a CEL or a blinking CEL at idle.
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#4: 04-21-2013, 02:57 AM
 
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Hmm ok
Thanks. Sounds like a place to start sniffing around
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#5: 04-21-2013, 07:57 PM
 
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My car is doing the same thing. RPM's at idle just drop sometimes. It stopped for awhile & I spaced it, but it just started again. Seems to be some what common but a lot of different possibilities. Keep us updated
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#6: 04-22-2013, 01:25 AM
 
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Got worse tonight!
Going to pick up O2 sensors and plugs tomorrow.
Driving the car makes me nervous. It dies during deceleration (in gear or neutral)
Dies at idle
**** this thing man... ughh
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Did you clean the MAF sensor with the $8.00 can of MAF sensor cleaner first.

Then did you spray Carb Cleaner around the intake manifold to TGV's to see if the thin OEM o-rings are leaking ? that is the normal fix for these cars, when you see the new o-rings next to the old ones you'll understand. The o-rings are $20.00



There are a ton of threads about this issue.

Oh Yea, If you buy a front O2 make sure it's a OEM one, that's seems to be what recommended here.
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#8: 04-22-2013, 08:49 AM
 
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or remove and clean the OCVs with a can of $9.00 brake clean and about half hours time, for both
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#9: 04-22-2013, 09:00 AM
 
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some seafoam couldnt hurt
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#10: 04-22-2013, 02:36 PM
 
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some seafoam couldnt hurt
Have you had any luck with this stuff?
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^ I think a lot of us that have been around for awhile use it. It does what it says it does when done properly. pretty much a steam cleaning of all your upper engine parts and piston domes
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Have you had any luck with this stuff?
I always use seafoam every oil change. But I've only used it through the gas tank. That method hasn't' fixed this problem for me. I attribute seafoam for helping keep my 93 Impreza running as long and well as it does though.
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#13: 04-22-2013, 06:30 PM
 
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Did you clean the MAF sensor with the $8.00 can of MAF sensor cleaner first.

Then did you spray Carb Cleaner around the intake manifold to TGV's to see if the thin OEM o-rings are leaking ? that is the normal fix for these cars, when you see the new o-rings next to the old ones you'll understand. The o-rings are $20.00



There are a ton of threads about this issue.

Oh Yea, If you buy a front O2 make sure it's a OEM one, that's seems to be what recommended here.
Excuse the noob question... the hell is a tgv?
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According with the service manual this are the possible causes:
in order :

- Electronic throttle control
-manifold absolute pressure sensor
-mass air flow and intake air temperature sensor
-Engine coolant temperature sensor ( only in low temperatures)
-Ignition parts (Ignition coil and spark plugs)
-Air intake system (air leaks in the intake system)
-Fuel injection parts (check fuel injectors, fuel pressure regulator and fuel filter)
-Crank shaft position sensor (ensure secure installation)
-Camshaft position sensor ( ensure secure installation)
- Oxygen sensor
- Fuel pump and fuel pump relay
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#15: 04-24-2013, 12:29 AM
 
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Thank you everybody with help and advice!

Will keep you posted once fixed and what fixed it
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