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#1:
04-20-2013, 01:20 PM
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horrible shuddering idle
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Title: Junior Member
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Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Car: 2006 LGT BLACK
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Car starts fine
Drives well
Shifts ok
No cel
However, at idle the car acts like its going to stall (occasionally does)
Just started yesterday. Going to upload a video of the shuddering idle to youtube. Will post link/try to embed here afterwards.
Seems like vacuum related, not sure.
Any ideas?
Thanks
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#2:
04-20-2013, 05:00 PM
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Title: Senior Contributor
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Location: Reno
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Car: 05 GT Limited 5EAT Stage 2
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Intake gaskets are most likely the problem.
Pcv and maf cleaning fixed this for me though.
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#3:
04-20-2013, 05:47 PM
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Title: Senior Member
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Location: Michigan where the snow flies, the salt sticks, and the vote is in the WRONG direction
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Car: 05 LGT EAT, 97 OB wagon
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Could be a bad coil. It won't set a CEL or a blinking CEL at idle.
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#4:
04-21-2013, 02:57 AM
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Title: Junior Member
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Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Hmm ok
Thanks. Sounds like a place to start sniffing around
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#5:
04-21-2013, 07:57 PM
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Title: Junior Member
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Location: It's a green house
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Car: 05 LGT Wagoh
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My car is doing the same thing. RPM's at idle just drop sometimes. It stopped for awhile & I spaced it, but it just started again. Seems to be some what common but a lot of different possibilities. Keep us updated
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#6:
04-22-2013, 01:25 AM
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Title: Junior Member
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Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Car: 2006 LGT BLACK
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Got worse tonight!
Going to pick up O2 sensors and plugs tomorrow.
Driving the car makes me nervous. It dies during deceleration (in gear or neutral)
Dies at idle
**** this thing man... ughh
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#7:
04-22-2013, 04:59 AM
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Title: Gearhead
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Location: Tolland, CT. USA
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Car: 05GT Wagon 5MT stg2, 09 specB stg1
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Did you clean the MAF sensor with the $8.00 can of MAF sensor cleaner first.
Then did you spray Carb Cleaner around the intake manifold to TGV's to see if the thin OEM o-rings are leaking ? that is the normal fix for these cars, when you see the new o-rings next to the old ones you'll understand. The o-rings are $20.00
There are a ton of threads about this issue.
Oh Yea, If you buy a front O2 make sure it's a OEM one, that's seems to be what recommended here.
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Last edited by Max Capacity; 04-22-2013 at 05:32 AM..
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#8:
04-22-2013, 08:49 AM
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Title: Contributing V.P.
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Location: Lost in the Mass woods
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Car: 06 LGT, konis/pinks,dba/hawk,stg1+
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or remove and clean the OCVs with a can of $9.00 brake clean and about half hours time, for both
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#9:
04-22-2013, 09:00 AM
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Title: Contributor
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Location: Minneapolis, MN
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some seafoam couldnt hurt
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#10:
04-22-2013, 02:36 PM
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Title: Senior Contributor
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Location: Reno
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stuck686
some seafoam couldnt hurt
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Have you had any luck with this stuff?
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#11:
04-22-2013, 03:10 PM
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Title: Contributing V.P.
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Location: Lost in the Mass woods
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^ I think a lot of us that have been around for awhile use it. It does what it says it does when done properly. pretty much a steam cleaning of all your upper engine parts and piston domes
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#12:
04-22-2013, 04:28 PM
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Title: Junior Member
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Location: It's a green house
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Car: 05 LGT Wagoh
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rob-2
Have you had any luck with this stuff?
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I always use seafoam every oil change. But I've only used it through the gas tank. That method hasn't' fixed this problem for me. I attribute seafoam for helping keep my 93 Impreza running as long and well as it does though.
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#13:
04-22-2013, 06:30 PM
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Title: Junior Member
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Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Car: 2006 LGT BLACK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Capacity
Did you clean the MAF sensor with the $8.00 can of MAF sensor cleaner first.
Then did you spray Carb Cleaner around the intake manifold to TGV's to see if the thin OEM o-rings are leaking ? that is the normal fix for these cars, when you see the new o-rings next to the old ones you'll understand. The o-rings are $20.00
There are a ton of threads about this issue.
Oh Yea, If you buy a front O2 make sure it's a OEM one, that's seems to be what recommended here.
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Excuse the noob question... the hell is a tgv?
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#14:
04-23-2013, 07:07 PM
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Title: New Member
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Location: Saint John , Canada
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Car: 2008 legacy spec B
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According with the service manual this are the possible causes:
in order :
- Electronic throttle control
-manifold absolute pressure sensor
-mass air flow and intake air temperature sensor
-Engine coolant temperature sensor ( only in low temperatures)
-Ignition parts (Ignition coil and spark plugs)
-Air intake system (air leaks in the intake system)
-Fuel injection parts (check fuel injectors, fuel pressure regulator and fuel filter)
-Crank shaft position sensor (ensure secure installation)
-Camshaft position sensor ( ensure secure installation)
- Oxygen sensor
- Fuel pump and fuel pump relay
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#15:
04-24-2013, 12:29 AM
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Title: Junior Member
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Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Car: 2006 LGT BLACK
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Posts: 30
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Thank you everybody with help and advice!
Will keep you posted once fixed and what fixed it
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