I'm confused about my clutch (replacement)

**gil_ong** · #1: 10-03-2012, 01:25 PM

i drive an 05 LGT.

i'm getting a weird chattering from my clutch and wondering if it's time to replace place. i've got 92k miles on the odometer, but i think the clutch was replaced by a previous owner at about 45k miles.

how do i tell if it's time to get it replaced? can't tell that it's slipping in any gear, but it seems to have been chattering a lot more recently. what's causing this? don't think i abuse my clutch, i'm usually pretty gentle off the line.

do i just remove the TMIC, remove that plug and look inside?

now worse case is replacement. I've read a little bit and the more i read, the more confused i get.

from Fred Beans:

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NOTES:
-The 05-06 Legacy GT uses a "Dual Mass" Flywheel & is Significantly more expensive. ($326 without flywheel)
-The 07-09 Legacy GT uses a "Single Mass" Flywheel ($290 without flywheel)
-We have supplied many 05-06 Legacy owners with the 07+ Clutch & Flywheel kit in order to reduce cost. Fitment & Driveability is fine. ( call us if you have any questions )
-If your Legacy GT is a late 2004 Model Year, please call us prior to ordering. This set-up may not work properly in your vehicle.

also heard someone else replacing the clutch with a 06/07 WRX clutch with the flywheel.

So..... what say you? not looking for any "performance clutch" but open to suggestions and opinions.

**Max Capacity** · #2: 10-03-2012, 01:28 PM

06-07 WRX is the same as 07-09 Legacy GT's. It will work fine in your car.

You should also get the TSK3 TOB kit.

IMO do not put a oem replacement clutch in it, go with a aftermarket clutch.

**gil_ong** · #3: 10-03-2012, 01:33 PM

i drive an 05 though.

what's a TSK3 TOB kit? - searched and found out. common failure and replace as a precaution?

why not an OEM replacement? what's a reasonable aftermarket clutch?

**dingbang** · #4: 10-03-2012, 03:18 PM

Depends...mods done to car?

Looking for change in pedal feel? There's a lot of posts on this board about what clutch fits what you want best. I've had experience with ACT and Comp on my car.

**Max Capacity** · #5: 10-03-2012, 03:29 PM

My Spec 2 clutch in my 05 wagon feels a lot like the oem clutch in my 09 Spec B.

The stock clutch is weak at best. They will slip when I back up in 3" of wet snow. All 3 of my wagons since my 1998 would do that.

**gil_ong** · #6: 10-03-2012, 08:12 PM

well, i plan to go stage 2 in the spring. but nothing fancy.

and that's part of the problem. there's SO MUCH it gets difficult to keep things straight. and honestly, the signal to noise ratio can be pretty bad at times.

i do like the dual mass though. much easy in slow/stop-and-go traffic.

**KBGRIZZLY64** · #7: 10-03-2012, 08:41 PM

Dual mass flywheel? Get rid of that thing... Much cheaper to replace with aftermarket lightweight flywheel. OEM flywheel is $350 and is extremely heavy.

**KBGRIZZLY64** · #8: 10-03-2012, 08:41 PM

Reducing rotating mass (lightweight flywheel) = moah powa

**gil_ong** · #9: 10-04-2012, 08:10 AM

all that is cool. did you get a CEL after installing a lightweight flywheel?

**cypher0117** · #**10:** 10-04-2012, 08:33 AM

you do not 'get more power' from a lwfw. less energy is needed to rotate the engine so it rev's more quickly. It may allow for a small increase of power to the wheels as there will be slightly less drivetrain loss. But if you like the dmfw for stop and go traffic, you will probably be unhappy with a lwfw. Going lightweight however, will not yield any CEL.

**KBGRIZZLY64** · #**11:** 10-04-2012, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cypher0117

you do not 'get more power' from a lwfw. less energy is needed to rotate the engine so it rev's more quickly. It may allow for a small increase of power to the wheels as there will be slightly less drivetrain loss. But if you like the dmfw for stop and go traffic, you will probably be unhappy with a lwfw. Going lightweight however, will not yield any CEL.

I know wrx lightweight flywheels have some occurances with pulling codes of misfireing on the gt. Exactly my point sir, more power is more power.

**gil_ong** · #**12:** 10-04-2012, 01:59 PM

wow. so this is adding up fast. clutch, single-mass flywheel, throwout bearing.

**KBGRIZZLY64** · #**13:** 10-04-2012, 02:03 PM

Get the whole clutch kit which comes with pressure plate, clutch disc, alignment tool, and stock throwout bearing. Buy the tko3 kit (worth it) and flywheel. You'll have a pretty different feel to your clutch pedal depending on which clutch you go with but I love the feel

**gil_ong** · #**14:** 10-04-2012, 02:20 PM

where do you get a stock 06 wrx flywheel?

**KBGRIZZLY64** · #**15:** 10-04-2012, 02:34 PM

I wouldnt go with a stock wrx flywheel I would go with an aftermarket legacy lightweight (which should be the same) but from a local guy I go to with questions says he sometimes runs into problems with them. Spec makes a light weight flywheel, ACT makes one. They are out there just look for them. Fredbeansparts.com might have them take a look.