Awesome deal on a set of BBK?

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http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/w...-p-150033.html

Looking at around to be 2250 shipped apparently. I may be wrong but is this FRONT and REAR upgrade worth it for an 05 lgt limited? I know the front is barely an upgrade. in terms of overall diameter.

You could get the same performance pretty much by just going to a good pad and rotor, also Ss lines and a flush if it's a dd. Some of us prefer a bbk, bac and myself are both in the middle of piecing together a oem brembo swap on our cars.

Unless you're tracking your car or just want the "cool" factor, these are not worth it.

Wilwoods work pretty well, but don't have seals on their pistons. That means they require more maintenance to keep clean and usable, otherwise it'll get clogged with brake dust.

You can find these used sets on nasioc for cheeeap.

Originally Posted by Windy Road

You could get the same performance pretty much by just going to a good pad and rotor, also Ss lines and a flush if it's a dd. Some of us prefer a bbk, bac and myself are both in the middle of piecing together a oem brembo swap on our cars.

What year OEM Brembos fit without custome brackets if any? I heard the 04 STI is a direct fit.

Originally Posted by 12sechatch

Unless you're tracking your car or just want the "cool" factor, these are not worth it.

I wanted it for the better stopping power and what person wouldnt want the cool factor along with the mod. I just want to improve my car so if going OEM STI + DBA 2 piece rotors is better then I could live with that.

Originally Posted by wpmarky

Wilwoods work pretty well, but don't have seals on their pistons. That means they require more maintenance to keep clean and usable, otherwise it'll get clogged with brake dust.

You can find these used sets on nasioc for cheeeap.

Well how often are we talking about? like once a month? once a week? I usually a monthly checkup on my car regardless. I wouldnt have a problem if i needed to clean them once a month either. :-)




As for overall, would i be replacing pads/rotors alot quicker with BBKs if i were daily driving or would it be about the same as a complete OEM setup?

04-12 Front Brembo's are a direct bolt on
04-07 Rear Brembo's you just need an adapter bracket, and either new ebrake shoes or a special rear rotor.

There's tons of threads on this on here.

Originally Posted by imprezachiang

I wanted it for the better stopping power and what person wouldnt want the cool factor along with the mod. I just want to improve my car so if going OEM STI + DBA 2 piece rotors is better then I could live with that.

a BBK /= more stopping power for a street driven car. It does offer less fade resistance, but that is only necessary for repeated stops, ie track.

Pads, rotors, lines and fluid will get you all the stopping power you could want on the street.

I'm not ruling out the cool factor, as big a$$ wilwood brakes are super cool, no doubt about it. Just dont drop $2K+ on something for the wrong reasons, thats all.

I've read magazine tests where BBKs actually increase stopping distance.

Why I want a BBK or some other brake upgrade is for pedal feel. Right now, I'm running Hawk HPS pads, Centric Premium blank rotors, ATE Super Blue fluid, and ss lines, all installed 16 months ago, so maybe a fluid flush would help.

My car has plenty of stopping power; I have no problem getting ABS to kick in. The problem is that the pedal is like an on-off switch. Very little happens for about half the pedal travel and then there is a very short period before the brakes lock up.

How do I increase the distance in pedal travel from initial grab to full lock? I'll do the fluid when it is warmer, so hopefully that will help. I'm also on the group buy for the GS master cylinder brace. If these two things don't help, any other suggestions?

If after the master cylinder brace you still aren't happy you could go for an STI master cylinder swap.

Thanks everyone for your feedback! :-)

I actually did a control test on my 05 LGT on track over 2 seasons. First season hawk hp+ with brembos up front. Second year hawk hp+ with oem in the front.

Stopping and fade were very marginally better with the brembos over the oem ones. This is in the advanced run group at tracks like watkins glen, limerock and njmp.

-mike


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I have wilwood 4 piston fronts and 4 rears. the front kit 12" rotors DO have dust boots, the rears do not. They came with all hardware, 2 piece rotors, bp10 pads, stainless lines the works. it ran me 1700. love the bite and the bp10 pads are great for daily stuff and auto x

-B

Originally Posted by AZP Installs

I actually did a control test on my 05 LGT on track over 2 seasons. First season hawk hp+ with brembos up front. Second year hawk hp+ with oem in the front.

Stopping and fade were very marginally better with the brembos over the oem ones. This is in the advanced run group at tracks like watkins glen, limerock and njmp.

-mike


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so what you're saying is, that its not the calipers that made any difference. its probably your pads and rotors?

Originally Posted by imprezachiang

so what you're saying is, that its not the calipers that made any difference. its probably your pads and rotors?

Yes. The only thing big calipers add is greater heat dissipation (read: less fade over repeated stops).

Originally Posted by imprezachiang

so what you're saying is, that its not the calipers that made any difference. its probably your pads and rotors?

Yup, unless you have really pumped a lot of hp/suspension/race tires/etc into your car.

-mike


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