More wheel pics: Private Farhens as requested

Here are some specs:

Privat Farhens Opal Silver (Anodized)

17"x8" +40mm offset

17.5 lbs

 

Yokohama Advan A032s

245/40/17 R-compounds

 

Here is a comparison to what a 17x7 +48mm offset rim looks like on my car (225/45/17 tires):

 

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/429/img00018ox.jpg

 

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/4625/img00020uz.jpg

 

 

 

Keefe

Here is a pic of the Farhens with the tires up front with ZERO degree of camber:

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/5918/img00041ih.jpg

Sticking out a bit much? Yes, but it can be fixed if you run harder suspension, raise the car a little bit more, and camber the hell out of the front wheels.

 

Keefe

The rear is FLUSH as it can be, and that's already -1.5 degrees of camber and lowered.. the fenders will HAVE to be rolled.. A LOT. Stiffer suspension is in order to minimize some suspension travel, if not, raise the car.. I would opt to raise the car some just because I dont want to fly over the hills:

 

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/6715/img00065eq.jpg

 

 

 

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/6738/img00052do.jpg

 

 

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/8619/img00121jf.jpg

 

 

Keefe

Some under side shots of the rear's clearance to the fender (which is none unless you roll the fenders).. notice that I already took off my rubber weather rubber strip off the edge of the fender lip:

 

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/1677/img00132vc.jpg

 

 

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/61/img00149ch.jpg

 

 

 

Keefe

Here are the rest of the pics:

 

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/1733/img00079si.jpg

 

 

 

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/6846/img00081pr.jpg

 

 

 

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/6035/img00094my.jpg

 

 

 

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/9066/img00101ya.jpg

 

 

 

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/5655/img00110td.jpg

 

 

Edit: Car in action with the alignment and fenders rolled:

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/3618/img00316yx.jpg

 

Keefe

So, what is camber? And what tire sizes are you runnin on that sexy set up?

ok, never mind to the size, i just saw it...sorry

Baddest ass thing about the car....the Gran Tourismo sticker

 

might wanna rub out your plate in the last pic if you want

That plate's been up everywhere...

 

But the series starts with (I think) your Pilot A/S - why were you running those? Is that your everyday wheel & tire??? I know you change rims and tires like my wife changes her hair, but I didn't expect those...

Thanks for the pics, the wheels and tires are looking hot. The good wheel/tire combos seem to need a lot of work to pull off.

How are the Advans?

 

they repute to be the baddest street tire out there, and I'm wondering if you think they are worth the price point, compared say, to KD/Ws, falken, etc.

 

thanks

So, what is camber? And what tire sizes are you runnin on that sexy set up?

 

in laymans terms camber is defined as how angled your tires are compared to the road contact.

 

Imagine walking on the inside edge of your feet, that is called negative camber.

 

Imagine walking on the outside edge of your feet, that is called postive camber.

 

Zero camber is best described as your feet firmly planted on the ground with full contact, so that means your legs and and ankles are perpendicularly as straight to the ground as possible.

 

Camber helps when your car is in a body roll, this will increase the contact patch as you are going through a turn. There is a happy medium because if you have too stiff of a sway bar, it's very possible to lift the inside wheel and have no traction from the tires.. remember that a car performs best for grip when it has all 4 tires on the ground (hence sway bars keep the car from rolling over to keep all 4 tires on the ground and have good down force and weight over the tires). As to anything, camber is one of those adjustments that becomes a catch-22.. too much negative camber can lessen your power in straight line braking (less contact on the road).

 

 

Baddest ass thing about the car....the Gran Tourismo sticker

and you might wanna rub out your plate in the last pic if you want

 

It's a personalized plate, if the public sees my car here around town, what's the difference if my car was in California for a photoshoot? I take full responsibility of my car, track event or not.

 

 

But the series starts with (I think) your Pilot A/S - why were you running those? Is that your everyday wheel & tire??? I know you change rims and tires like my wife changes her hair, but I didn't expect those...

 

My other street tires were being sold (the 255/35/18 Toyo T1-S) to my friend for $600 during the morning.. so I ordered a set of 245/40/18 Falken Aznenis as the replacemnt of them. The wheels you see (5Zigen Heidfeld Generation1) are built like a rock and they are my "winter" set along with the Pilot Sport A/S... I only use them as my back-up set for the street use. I sold my stock wheels for Gram Lights 57Pros and have Dunlop Super Sport Race R-compound tires on them.

 

I have well over more than 5 sets of r-compounds at home mounted on the rims.. so I want to save them for autox and track days only.

 

 

How are the Advans?

 

they repute to be the baddest street tire out there, and I'm wondering if you think they are worth the price point, compared say, to KD/Ws, falken, etc.

 

These Advans are the A032s ('s' for soft) and should be only used for autox events because they only last like about 1000 miles worth of autox from heat cycle and more.

 

You sould refrain yourself from driving R-compounds on a daily basis due to heat cycles. Granted that they are street legal, they just dont last long because they are soo soft.

 

I bought these tires for $400 shipped used from fellow racers and they have plenty of tread left for at least 10 to 12 more events on them (or one track day at an easy pace). So for the price, it depends of where you get them. They are sticky (treadwear of 60) and the tires you are looking at are treadwear of 150 or more and they are not considered as r-compound tires (some are debatable, but most rules go by the treadwear to distguish if it is or not).

 

 

Keefe

Just an update, I did run these tires at the last Subaru Challenge in Maryland and they didnt rub at all. I did the following adjustments to the car to compensate the possibility of not rubbing:

 

-dialed in stiffer shocks (Zeal coilovers set to full stiff in the rear for competition use)

-dialed in -3.0 camber front

-did not touch ride height

-had 400 lbs in the car from carrying a 20'x10', tools and wheels.

-drove the car home on full soft shocks (still didnt rub, but had some rubbing on the outer edge of the fender up front from off-ramps when turning near full lock).

 

A 17"x8" +40mm is doable, but it's really maxing out the rear fenders. A 38mm offset of the same size will probably bend your rear fender during suspension travel. My suggestion is either flare your fenders or get lesser wide tires.. the best option is to find better fitting rims.

 

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/3618/img00316yx.jpg

So all in all would you rather run an 18x7.5 or a 17x8 on your LGT?

I would run 17x8.5 actually.. you just need the correct offset.

what about the 18x8.5 ssr comps you were running? what offset were they? did they rub?

 

i am thinkin about getting the same size and am curious...

 

 

 

 

edit:those privats look GOOD. nice wheel choice

what about the 18x8.5 ssr comps you were running? what offset were they? did they rub?

 

i am thinkin about getting the same size and am curious...

 

 

 

 

edit:those privats look GOOD. nice wheel choice

 

 

18x8.5 +50mm offset (from 04 STi fitments so it's a good sign that you can put some BBKs under there as well). No rubbing running 235/40/18 Rcompounds with rolled rear fenders and some -2.0 degrees camber up front and -1.2 degrees in the rear. Pics for those are here:

 

http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24119

so if i were to run 18X8 will i have to roll the fenders?

so if i were to run 18X8 will i have to roll the fenders?

 

both 18x8 +51 and 18x8.5 +50 offsets can run on NON-rolled fenders if your tire choice is a 225/40/18

keefe you think i could get away with an 18x8 rim 50 mm offset with a tire thats 25.4" its a 235/40? it seems it should just make it without no problems. i was thinking 45mm offset for more lip but i think that will def end up with fender clearance issues. thanks.

find a 8" at +48 if you want to run that tire size, if you want more lip, get a +44 or +45 with a 225/40/18. I have done that already with a 18x8.5 rim +50 offset on a Pirelli R-compound 235/40/18 tire.