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03-23-2013, 04:02 PM
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High Idle Fuel Trim
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Title: Contributor
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Location: Westchester County in New York
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Ive been looking all over for vacuum leaks, found one but my learning view still pegs at 15, any ideas??
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#2:
03-23-2013, 04:42 PM
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Car runs and pulls fine. Anyway to get turbo inlet hose out and in without removing intake manifold?
Last edited by Tehnation; 03-23-2013 at 05:03 PM..
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03-23-2013, 05:08 PM
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Title: Contributor
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Wish my car had a face so I could punch it.....
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03-23-2013, 05:48 PM
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Title: Senior Member
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Location: Hartford County, Connecticut
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I recommend plugging the FIRST nipple on the turbo inlet and leaving the rest on. Then pressurize the system and check for leaks. Just dont go crazy with 15+psi(do 10 at most.)
Ive been chasing down a vacuum leak for about 2 weeks now :/
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#5:
03-23-2013, 05:56 PM
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Tried something like that, and found one hose, but after that nothing. Will be replacing intake manifold gaskets when I remove it to inspect turbo inlet hose.
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03-23-2013, 06:31 PM
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Ok good luck, i also found one breather hose that leaked and now no leaks, holds pressure but still messed up fuel trims.
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#7:
03-24-2013, 01:20 PM
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... Everything was fine. Cant seem to find this leak, its supposedly a big one. But I cant find it anywhere. Anyone any ideas? Pulled off intake manifold, took everything apart. Idles fine, runs fine.
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#8:
03-28-2013, 06:49 PM
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I made a boost leak tester, fixed all the leaks, zip tied every hose, and now its completely silent under pressure. Still have high idle fuel trim. My maf is peaking at 208 g/s. Going to change air filter. Already took a bottle of maf cleaner to maf sensor. If air filter does not raise g/s I will replace maf.
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#9:
03-28-2013, 08:57 PM
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I can't see if you mentioned but do you have the stock air intake system with snorkel and stock turbo inlet?
Any change in these can also affect the fuel trims/Maf data.
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#10:
03-29-2013, 07:49 AM
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Stock everything except crank pulley, flywheel, uppipe and downpipe for engine stuff. Going to pick up fuel pump/vacuum tester to test fuel pressure. If thats good then I will purchase a maf.
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03-29-2013, 08:01 AM
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Title: JDM tuner wanna be
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Can you post a learning view of the F'd up fuel trim? How much correction?
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#12:
03-29-2013, 08:25 AM
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In a class atm but the idle trim is at 15 and 3rd box is at 7-9 the other 2 are 1 and .something. lemme find post of old lv.
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#13:
03-29-2013, 08:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tehnation
Looking for a leak, checked all the normal spots. Any ideas?
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With these numbers if it were a vacuum leak it would be a hose completely off. But When I cap up the turbo inlet and put it under pressure, I dont hear a peep. Zip tied everything, replaced turbo inlet hose, and maf sensor hoses and it holds the pressure for a long time, but I am getting the same numbers. If its a leak it would be small but it shouldnt throw it off that much I would think.
Last edited by Tehnation; 03-29-2013 at 08:33 AM..
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#14:
03-29-2013, 09:29 AM
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Title: JDM tuner wanna be
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Hmm..assuming your maf scale was solid before this craziness, you should log you front O2 and confirm that no odd readings are popping up. I am leaning toward a O2 or maf sensor issue.
It might be you maf scale was never really perfect..
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#15:
03-29-2013, 12:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spec B
Hmm..assuming your maf scale was solid before this craziness, you should log you front O2 and confirm that no odd readings are popping up. I am leaning toward a O2 or maf sensor issue.
It might be you maf scale was never really perfect..
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I am leaning twords a 02 or maf as well.
Ive seen cars needing some tweeks for slightly higher that normal af learning but this is 100% stock maf scaling and stock box.
Dave
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