RIPjeep2002 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Hey guys, Got the HK system in my 09 with the 7 speakers. Just ordered a sub and amp for my trunk for a hidden enclosure. The amp does not have speaker level inputs so I bought a line output converter from Scosche..... http://www.crutchfield.com/p_142SLC4/Scosche-SLC4.html?tp=2001 Question is, where do I tap the speaker wires? pre HK amp? Tap the wires for the deck sub? Any help would be great. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPjeep2002 Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FocuS Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I would tap pre-HK amp as the output from the amp will likely introduce some noise into the converter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FocuS Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 ...or you can get an Audio control unit and get even better fidelity...you can get one for about $100! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPjeep2002 Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 want to keep it simple with the line output Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 You should tap on after the amp at a speaker for a couple of reasons. 1. You dont have to pull the deck out. 2. Amplified signal to the coverter. (more power in, better signal out) Also sub amps almost never produce engine noise, unless something is wrong with the amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPjeep2002 Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 You should tap on after the amp at a speaker for a couple of reasons. 1. You dont have to pull the deck out. 2. Amplified signal to the coverter. (more power in, better signal out) Also sub amps almost never produce engine noise, unless something is wrong with the amp. That sounds like a true statement. I was thinking about tapping the wires that go to the deck sub? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 That sounds like a true statement. I was thinking about tapping the wires that go to the deck sub? That should fine, but keep in mind that the factory sub is already crossed over and some cheaper line output converters can't handle the the high wattage that goes to the subwoofer compared to the interior speakers. Good Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPjeep2002 Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 That should fine, but keep in mind that the factory sub is already crossed over and some cheaper line output converters can't handle the the high wattage that goes to the subwoofer compared to the interior speakers. Good Luck! So what is your opinion? Wire it to a door speaker since the factory sub on the HK has more power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-WDC Spec B Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 i agree with focus. There will be interference from the hk amp. I have an LOC. but i dont have an HK unit. I got forward and reverse harnesses and use them to t-connect the LOC. I find this better because pulling the HU is easy and most speakers are in the doors and i find door panel removal a PITA. If you want to tap speaker outputs you should use the jl cleansweep then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPjeep2002 Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 The cleansweep is not worth it to me. Not worth the money. Just looking for a quick way to tap. If i pull out the headunit, where do I tap the speakers there to the LOC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-WDC Spec B Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I dont know if its the same for the HK unit. but here you go. Like i said i used a forward and revers harnes and t-connect the LOC so i didnt have to cut wires in case i wanted to removed everything. Actually it helped me pull my system outa my WRX when i totaled it. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=749402 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPjeep2002 Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 Thanks. Reach out to everybody? Anybody have a wireing scematic for the 08+ with the HK system, and whether to tap pre ampor post amp and where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FocuS Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I agree that the Cleansweep unit is overpriced! Thats why I recommend products from Audiocontrol...they even have a number of units that allow you to connect external inputs without having to worry about the jazzy or other mods... Obviously, I have an '05 without an input... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPjeep2002 Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 Agreed.But someone out there has to know where to install the LOC on the 09 with the HK system without getting aignal noise. Come on your gurus. Help me out here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPjeep2002 Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 Just spoke with my buddy and he said it would be best off an ampilified signal so we will prob do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 i agree with focus. There will be interference from the hk amp. I have an LOC. but i dont have an HK unit. I got forward and reverse harnesses and use them to t-connect the LOC. I find this better because pulling the HU is easy and most speakers are in the doors and i find door panel removal a PITA. If you want to tap speaker outputs you should use the jl cleansweep then. I am an installer and a l.o.c. will not just pick up inteference from an amplified signal. The signal would have to be "dirty" to start with and being that it is factory and a newer car it will be fine. Also you can catch the signal in the side pillar between the front and back door on drivers side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-WDC Spec B Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 ^ you are right! but i forgot to put my point in there for taping the signal before the amp. As you know most stock amps hinder the bass level at high volume to protect the stock speakers and since hes running an aftermarket sub and amp that effect would be undesirable less a cleansweep or similar unit. Thats my main reason as to why he should do it before the amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPjeep2002 Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 I am an installer and a l.o.c. will not just pick up inteference from an amplified signal. The signal would have to be "dirty" to start with and being that it is factory and a newer car it will be fine. Also you can catch the signal in the side pillar between the front and back door on drivers side. Thanks for the location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mars_volta Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 MTX Re-Q. Simple like a line converter but much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 ^ you are right! but i forgot to put my point in there for taping the signal before the amp. As you know most stock amps hinder the bass level at high volume to protect the stock speakers and since hes running an aftermarket sub and amp that effect would be undesirable less a cleansweep or similar unit. Thats my main reason as to why he should do it before the amp. The signal coming from the HK head unit is low level to begin with. That is a handicap in itself. The "hindered" bass is more than compensated for in the new amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPjeep2002 Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 yes it is compensated for in the new HK amp. even with volume turned up to 30, the bass is still there, just not as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CzarDestructo Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 MTX Re-Q is 500% better than a normal line out converter and not that expensive. It's still not Cleansweap though. I tried a plain line out converter in my car initially, it was awful. Also, it's ridiculously easy to wire up the line out converter, use the search function, thats what it's made for. Hint, search for a reverse wire harness to make your wiring endeavors quicker and less intrusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPjeep2002 Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 I have heard good things about the SL4 LOc from Scosche. So we shall see in another week. As it looks it is either going to be connected to the sub wires in the rear deck or the speaker wires in the pillar between the front and rear doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPjeep2002 Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 ^ you are right! but i forgot to put my point in there for taping the signal before the amp. As you know most stock amps hinder the bass level at high volume to protect the stock speakers and since hes running an aftermarket sub and amp that effect would be undesirable less a cleansweep or similar unit. Thats my main reason as to why he should do it before the amp. i think whathe was saying was since it is factory amp, and its new the signal is good and interference shouldbe minimal so he is encouraging me to tap post HK amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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