xAgyex Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 On July 27th, I purchased this 2005 Subaru Legacy GT. I think the Legacy GT is the perfect all around vehicle. I have owned lots of cars (S2000, Rx8) and well I think it was time to move to a more practice car for my family. Hopefully this one will be a winter trooper and take us snowboarding. 2005 LGT 2.5 Turbo Regal Blue 145,966 Miles Timing Belt/ Water Pump completed 30k miles ago Clutch completed at 125k miles Rear wheel bearings were the only other things that ever failed and were replaced. Well maintained ------------------- VIN DECODEDED BELOW: VIN: 4S3BP676456337065 WMI / VDS / VIS: 4S3 / BP6764 / 56337065 Manufacturer: Subaru Isuzu of America, Subaru of Indiana Automotive Inc Manufacturer address: 5500 State Road 38 E, Lafayette IN 47905-9405 Name: 2.5 GT Limited AWD 4dr Wagon (2.5L 4cyl Turbo 5M) Brand: Subaru Model: Outback LEGACY Engine: 2.5L Region/Plant: N/A Check: 4 Year: 2005 Sequential number: 37065 Compression Ratio: 8.2 Cylinder: 4 Size: 2.5 Displacement: 2457 Configuration: flat Fuel Type: premium unleaded (required) Horsepower: 250 Horsepower at: 6000 Torque: 250 Torque at: 3600 Total Valves: 16 Code: 4HTCG2.5 Compressor Type: turbocharger Timing: variable valve timing Gear: double overhead camshaft Transmission Type: MANUAL Number Of Speeds: 5 Driven Wheels: all wheel drive Num Of Doors: 4 Manufacturer Code: 5BG-5BH E P A Class: Compact Cars Vehicle Size: Midsize Vehicle Style: Wagon Highway: 23 City: 17 Lug pattern: 5x100 ------------------- THIS IS WHAT THE PREVIOUS OWNER POSTED ON HERE WHEN HE WAS SELLING IT: Previous owner was RuhRoh! Sold. Year, Make and Model: 2005 Subaru Legacy GT Wagon Ltd. 5MT Color: Regal Blue (black interior) Miles: 146,000 Transmission: 5-speed Title: clean and in hand Lien: none Location: Reston, VA VIN: 4S3BP676456337065 Seller's email address: XXX@yahoo.com Asking Price: $9,000 or best reasonable offer Selling my beloved 2005 Subaru Legacy GT Wagon Ltd. 5-speed. I've owned it from new and it has been my daily driver. Always fully stock, never modded. Never in an accident. No smokers, no pets. Everything works. This is the car we bought when we had our first (and as it turns out only) child, and it has been a great car to be both practical and fun. Only reason for selling is we've owned it a decade and it's time to get something new (the Volvo V60 is already in the stable). Mechanically, the car is sound. No turbo failure, no throwout bearing failure. Both rear bearings replaced under warranty. Clutch replaced over a year ago. New rear brakes this spring. Newer Conti DWS tires with lots of life left. I have most records and can detail further repairs put in recently (wife didn't realize for a couple of years that I was giving her the oil change records to file, not to throw out -- that said, it never went more than 5k without an oil change). Cosmetically, I would call it good to very good. Paint is glossy and cleans up nicely, but has scratches and chips consistent with its age and use. No major dents, but lots of door dings (apparently nobody in NoVa can open a door in a parking lot without hitting the neighboring car) so it could use some PDR love. One flaw warrants mention: an improperly mounted rear bike rack cracked the plastic panel just below the rear hatch glass; this happened seven years ago and has never caused trouble (see picture). One rear door handle was recently replaced after breaking in an ice storm; it's unpainted black, but very hard to see against the dark blue. All wheels are curbed, but they pass the ten-foot test. Interior is in very good shape, with appropriate wear for its age and use. Stereo, CD changer, heated seats, lights -- everything works. Leather has no tears; dashboard has no cracks. Grey headliner has mild stain from leaving the sunroof open in a storm once. The backs of the seats are scuffed from my daughter and her friends kicking the plastic seatbacks, and the rear cupholders were long ago kicked to pieces. All-season floor mats. The car comes with factory crossbars (not pictured), a set of unused carpeted floor mats, and a Jabra bluetooth in-car speakerphone. Aftermarket alloy wheels with Continental Extreme Winter tires (205/50-17) near the end of their useful life are also available. Prefer local sale. Asking $9,000 or best reasonable offer. ------------------- First picture of the "Boat" SS-Subi: http://i.imgur.com/rK1o7Na.png Miles when I pickted it up: http://i.imgur.com/kegdUAy.png ------------------- Total cost of ownership so far: $1764.34 Registration: $550 MD Tags: $135 Inspection: $100 Fix exhaust leak: $100 Oil Change 8/8/2015: $30 New engine air filter 8/9/2015: $20 Cabin air filter -FRAM CF9846A Fresh Breeze Cabin Air Filter- 8/22/2015: $13 Spark plugs - NGK Laser Iridium SILFR6A - 8/29/2015 - $55 2011 Subaru rims 235/45/17 - $500 Genuine Subaru Front Wheel Hub and Bearing Assembly for 2005-2013 Legacy and Outback - $180.24 Subaru 902170049 Axle Nut - $7.64 Company23 Tee fitting - $8.95 Front sway bar endlinks - $26.27 Rear sway bar endlinks - $19.24 ------------------- http://badges.fuelly.com/images/smallsig-us/378140.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xAgyex Posted August 9, 2015 Author Share Posted August 9, 2015 So today today the SS-Subi pass her inspection with flying colors...ok not so flying colors...I think the previous owner used 87 and so it was shutting off on me a lot with bad idle...but the inspector was able to drive it still so he passed me. So after pickup I filled her up for the first time with 91, picked up Castro 5w 30 and K&N oil filter and completed the first oil change. **As a bonus, since bad idle can happen because of Mass Airflow Sensor, I clean it with some electrical cleaner** Parts: Castro Edge 5w30 (Manual calls for Upper level 4.2 US qt) http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61t2LiRf-2L._SY355_.jpg K&N HP1010 (I know, I know should be HP1008 like Rx8, but the HP1010 is longer and holds more oil so figured I try it) http://b.cdnbrm.com/images/products/large/air_intake_systems/kn_vehicle_specific/kn_HP-1010.jpg Total cost: $30 -------------------------------- DIY: 1. Remove oil fill cap http://i.imgur.com/ok9pXwS.png 2. Jack Subi up on driver side 3. Locate under Subi, the oil drain plug 17mm, and remove it. http://i.imgur.com/aUcu71h.png 4. Let oil drain for a while, and clean and inspect drain plug and crush washer. 5. Locate under Subi, near passenger side, the oil filter, and remove it SLOWLY. http://i.imgur.com/SrVB8XQ.png 6. Clean up the mating surface where the oil filter use to be. 7. Apply a little bit of oil to new oil filter lip, and put a little bit of new oil into new filter, then install. Hand tighten. 8. Lower the car. 9. Add fresh oil. 10. Check level. 11. Go for a drive and call it a good day. ----------------------------------------- Oil and oil filter changed at 145981 miles http://i.imgur.com/RZfS0aJ.png ----------------------------------------- Mass Airflow Sensor cleaned at 145981 miles http://i.imgur.com/Y3Vdvsx.png Remove 2 screws, pull the plug out and spray it like hell with the electrical cleaner, reinstall, and that is literally it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xAgyex Posted August 9, 2015 Author Share Posted August 9, 2015 First Check Engine Light what a bummer. I was driving with AC on high in 90 degree weather. Pull in to a shop to drop off the used oil from my oil change yesterday. Came back to car and Check Engine Light was on and Cruise Control green light was also blinking. The car drove fine. Got home and pulled the code on my OBD2 reader...P0171 Subaru - System Too Lean Bank 1 http://i.imgur.com/jr7DAf8m.jpg http://i.imgur.com/vPhg9B5m.jpg Note: I did clean the MAF yesterday with some electrical cleaner...so...I am hopeful. Not off to a good start huh. Plan of action: 1. Check MAF again 2. Check intake air filter 3. Check vacum lines under intercoller:::COOL VIDEO TO HELP::: ----------------------------- Update: 1. Removed inter cooler and checked noting was lose or out of place. http://i.imgur.com/1czsgjSm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/UYskDDrm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Y6d0vq7m.jpg http://i.imgur.com/6BgZ8RJm.jpg 2. Checked MAF sensor was clean. http://i.imgur.com/AhUPOBwm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/rJvvXjnm.jpg - New filter was $20 http://i.imgur.com/4E1vRXxm.jpg 3. Found the air intake filter was very dirty, so replaced it. 4. Erased CEL code and all has been well so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battelready Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Theres a blue T connector under the intercooler. About 85% of the time thats the issue. I bought an auto be more involved in my uninvolvedness . 200k+ Club If you can't blind them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit. My high mileage turd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xAgyex Posted August 10, 2015 Author Share Posted August 10, 2015 Theres a blue T connector under the intercooler. About 85% of the time thats the issue. Battelready, thanks for the help...I removed the inter cooler and found no loose hoes. I double checked and made sure all was in place. Erased code, and so far so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xAgyex Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 Had Andrewtech Automotive in Gaithersburg, MD, have a drive today, and the team there says it seems like a solid Legacy. If I have any issues in the future they will be the guys to have a go at her. I highly recommend them, as a local Subaru Tech in MD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98legwag Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I just notice you are in MD. If you are on facebook you should look at MD Subaru Club. We try to have meets every couple weeks. https://www.facebook.com/groups/marylandsubaruclub/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xAgyex Posted August 22, 2015 Author Share Posted August 22, 2015 Update: The LGT is still acting strange at 2500 to 3000 RPMs, so planning to replace the spark plugs. For now not going to stress because it drives well...minus bad tires or something that makes it vibrate at high speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xAgyex Posted August 22, 2015 Author Share Posted August 22, 2015 I just notice you are in MD. If you are on facebook you should look at MD Subaru Club. We try to have meets every couple weeks. https://www.facebook.com/groups/marylandsubaruclub/ Thanks 98legwag, I joined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xAgyex Posted August 29, 2015 Author Share Posted August 29, 2015 I have to say I am disappointed in this car. After less than 1 month (at 146,907 miles) of ownership I have my second CEL P0302 -Cylinder 2 Misfire Detected. http://i.imgur.com/WZ4mnBjm.jpg Since I don't know when the spark plugs were last changed, I went ahead and decided to get that done today. http://i.imgur.com/ilF9MNPm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/aMJFJtLm.jpg Passenger side rear plug - Gap 0.038 http://i.imgur.com/Yg7RCDJm.jpg Passenger side front plug - Gap 0.036 http://i.imgur.com/XcLbAsXm.jpg Driver side rear plug - Gap 0.039 http://i.imgur.com/jfisd0Bm.jpg Driver side front plug - Gap 0.037 http://i.imgur.com/IM5E486m.jpg Tight spaces...took me about 3 hours to do this and I think I am a gear head http://i.imgur.com/szmyQCkm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zlSGBZsm.jpg Also replaced cabin air filter...found that the previous owner did not even have a cabin air filter in there...oye Got a new one from [ame=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0010DZZVK?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00]Amazon [/ame] for under $13 http://i.imgur.com/frQrjjll.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xuwwfKul.jpg I also fix the weird noise under my dashboard. My vent changer was getting stuck and clicking. It was annoying me a lot, so when i was changing the cabin air filter, I decided to pull out the vent module and regrease it and it fixed the issue. But wow what a pain to get it out of the car. I used this link to help me. FINAL CONCLUSION ABOUT SUBARU LEGACY...NOT MY FAVORITE VEHICLE...It will have to do as a grocery getter. Not going to invest money in modding it, just not worth it. I have owned and work on many vehicles, and by far one of the worst to work on, the most misbehaved, and the worst designed (Partially disassemble dash to replace cabin air filter???Why?...Need baby hands to replace spark plugs???Why?). The saving grace in the car is that it is a wagon and has a roof rack. ***Just my opinion*** Previously owned and self maintained: 85 Honda Civic 90 Ford Mustang 2.3 91 Mercury Capri 91 Mazda Miata 95 Honda Civic - Fully built 00 Honda S2000 06 Mazda Rx8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I3eXa Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Well buying a car with 150K on it not knowing how the previous owner really took care of it and possibly already having these issues and just clearing the codes while selling it before they come back is a big possibility too. Sucks it's happening but hopefully you can get to the bottom of it. But if you don't like it sell it. Sounds like you hate the car already but should have done some more homework before buying yeah? Sent from somewhere in Potatoland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I3eXa Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Also, these didn't come with a cabin filter installed from the factory. Sent from somewhere in Potatoland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holla Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 It really can be a solid car, but again being 10+ years old and 150k on it I'm sure it's going to need some tlc. I also came from the Honda world. Turbo Subaru's easily need double the attention any of my Hondas combined needed. I remember seeing this car for sale, seemed like a solid buy. Is the motor completely stock? Throw a DP and a tune on it and then tell us how you feel about it, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xAgyex Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 Well buying a car with 150K on it not knowing how the previous owner really took care of it and possibly already having these issues and just clearing the codes while selling it before they come back is a big possibility too. Sucks it's happening but hopefully you can get to the bottom of it. But if you don't like it sell it. Sounds like you hate the car already but should have done some more homework before buying yeah? Sent from somewhere in Potatoland I3eXa, Thanks for the support. I did my home work trust me...hahah it was between the LGT and Cayman S...lets just say the Cayman would have given me way more problems. I am just upset...It is a car, shit goes wrong, I will maintain it. My expectations were too high is all...I have no comments about the previous owners maintenance. I will monitor the situation, and if all else fails I can sell it, and be honest to who ever buys it...heck I have posted about it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xAgyex Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 Also, these didn't come with a cabin filter installed from the factory. Sent from somewhere in Potatoland I3eXa, that is just not sanitary. Why would they do that? You have to admitt, that does not make Subaru look good in anyway...they can not spend the $15 dollars to install one? Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xAgyex Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 It really can be a solid car, but again being 10+ years old and 150k on it I'm sure it's going to need some tlc. I also came from the Honda world. Turbo Subaru's easily need double the attention any of my Hondas combined needed. I remember seeing this car for sale, seemed like a solid buy. Is the motor completely stock? Throw a DP and a tune on it and then tell us how you feel about it, lol. Holla, this car is solid, even with all the stupidness at this point, it drives well and has been a great grocery getter...we shall see if it makes it to snow season, because I will be taking it to the mountains, and possibly even all the way to Vermont. I had planned to tune it after I had sorted everything out. The plan was to do so this weekend, but I dont want to now. I will give it a week or so to see if the code comes back, then continue on this journey. Plans: Upgrade turbo Tune Plasti Dip red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I3eXa Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Yeah it is pretty sad they skimped on the cabin filters. Also just think of all the money you are saving on ANYTHING you buy because it doesn't say Porsche I think the car will grow on you and definitely win your heart once snow hits. I wouldn't have any other car living in the upperleft because of the snow Sent from somewhere in Potatoland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xAgyex Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share Posted September 1, 2015 After changing the spark plugs, the ideal is much better, but still have a weak spot around 2500 and 3000 RPM...I think the car may just need a tune to get ride of that spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xAgyex Posted September 3, 2015 Author Share Posted September 3, 2015 So found out that the stuttering at 2500-3500 rpm under hard acceleration, there is no fix so far and Subaru claims this is normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battelready Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Clean the MAF sensor. I noticed that once I changed my sensor the hesitation was gone. I bought an auto be more involved in my uninvolvedness . 200k+ Club If you can't blind them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit. My high mileage turd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Mac Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Have you looked into any of the stumble threads? Mine does it mildly but mostly under light acceleration rather than full boost Info's on post 518. He's got some links to other usefull threads in there too. http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/covertrussians-05-lgt-build-thread-218363p35.html 2000 Legacy B4 RSK - SOLD 2006 Legacy BP5 GT Spec B wagon - Garage Thread 2011 VW T5 van 2.0L of turbo diesel awesomeness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xAgyex Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share Posted September 8, 2015 Clean the MAF sensor. I noticed that once I changed my sensor the hesitation was gone. battelready, I actually already did this the first week I owned the car. Maybe I just need to remove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xAgyex Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share Posted September 8, 2015 Have you looked into any of the stumble threads? Mine does it mildly but mostly under light acceleration rather than full boost Info's on post 518. He's got some links to other usefull threads in there too. http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/covertrussians-05-lgt-build-thread-218363p35.html Andy_Mac, that was an interesting article. I will have to figure out how to applie that fix, and all the parts, and possibly post it up on there thanks a lot man. So Andy_Mac did you do that fix for your LGT? and if so did it help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt166 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 battelready, I actually already did this the first week I owned the car. Maybe I just need to remove it. Did you spray up in the hole on the MAF? From your description in the pics it sounds like you just sprayed the bulb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xAgyex Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share Posted September 8, 2015 Did you spray up in the hole on the MAF? From your description in the pics it sounds like you just sprayed the bulb. Matt166, you may be right on the money, I did spray up a little, but I didn't focus the spray up there. I will try this tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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