spinny2559 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 I just picked up my 08 Legacy SE about 2 weeks ago, and I noticed something weird about the heating system. I thought maybe the heat just takes a while to come on so I never thought much of it. Now I am realizing that it simply isn't working. Anyone else ever had this problem? I'm going to take it to the dealership tomorrow probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS5689 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Heater core (although its not leaking, I would have noticed last night), or heater fan, faulty thermostat, it's possible an air directional valve isnt not opening to allow heated air to flow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinny2559 Posted August 16, 2008 Author Share Posted August 16, 2008 I'm not sure it would be the valve, because I still get air flow when the heat is cranked.. but only cold air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 The air flow is directed in a different path to get heated, which means that the ventilation control may have failed for the heat adjustment. But check water level and water temperature to verify if the water is warm enough. If you can't hold on to a hose with water then it's warm enough and it's not likely to be the thermostat. But I would say that this is a warranty issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS5689 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 The air flow is directed in a different path to get heated, which means that the ventilation control may have failed for the heat adjustment. But check water level and water temperature to verify if the water is warm enough. If you can't hold on to a hose with water then it's warm enough and it's not likely to be the thermostat. But I would say that this is a warranty issue. I just looked at his car now. It not a thermostat. Well warranty issue for sure though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinny2559 Posted August 16, 2008 Author Share Posted August 16, 2008 We (me and RJ) think it could be something with the valve, because no matter where it is, it's only getting one temperature air, cold. Edit* Or at least this is what I understood from what we discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS5689 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 We (me and RJ) think it could be something with the valve, because no matter where it is, it's only getting one temperature air, cold. Edit* Or at least this is what I understood from what we discussed. Yep, you got it budday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f1anatic Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I just picked up my 08 Legacy SE about 2 weeks ago, and I noticed something weird about the heating system. I thought maybe the heat just takes a while to come on so I never thought much of it. Now I am realizing that it simply isn't working. Anyone else ever had this problem? I'm going to take it to the dealership tomorrow probably. Heat ? Why would you need heat during the summer ? Do you mean the AC ? I bet you it is the magic disconnected cable ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS5689 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Heat ? Why would you need heat during the summer ? Do you mean the AC ? I bet you it is the magic disconnected cable ! No, he means heat. It can actually get quite nippy at night in upstate NY where he is with the car... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osei Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 No offense, but you just got your car. TAKE IT BACK to the dealer, let him find and fix it... Period. What we think is irrelevant. O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinny2559 Posted August 17, 2008 Author Share Posted August 17, 2008 No offense, but you just got your car. TAKE IT BACK to the dealer, let him find and fix it... Period. What we think is irrelevant. O. Obviously. I'm just trying to figure it out out of curiosity. It's going back to the dealer on Monday for them to take a look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exojjl Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 The air flow is directed in a different path to get heated, which means that the ventilation control may have failed for the heat adjustment. But check water level and water temperature to verify if the water is warm enough. If you can't hold on to a hose with water then it's warm enough and it's not likely to be the thermostat. But I would say that this is a warranty issue. The thermostat has nothing to do with this!!!! If the thermostat is bad the engine would be overheating!!! I replaced the original thermostat in one of my cars, it was damn near 35 years old!!!! Let alone the heater core was clogged at 36 years of use. I've seen diesel thermostats run longer than that and they run at higher temps!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exojjl Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 If you really want to know, which I can tell you its not the case. Pull the thermostat out. Put a boiling pot of water on your stove. Use a thermometer to bring the water to the exact heat that your thermostat is rated for. But considering its the original thermostat from the factory, you won't know for sure. Typical most engines run 175F thermostats. If it opens up, it is good. Just don't put the brass end of the thermostat face down in the water (could damage it. Basically melt it down.) To much direct heat to it. As for the cold air flow, the fan definitely is working....I think. I can't remember, but some heater cores might switch a valve when you flip from hot to cold to prevent hot air from the heater core from flowing and then directs air from the outside of the car in the vents. In which case, a valve, like previously mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exojjl Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 Heater core (although its not leaking, I would have noticed last night), or heater fan, faulty thermostat, it's possible an air directional valve isnt not opening to allow heated air to flow? A faulty thermostat would not be the problem. If it were the engine would be overheating because cooled water from the radiator/hot water from the engine block entering the radiator would not be flowing past the thermostat since it acts as sensitive valve to heated water. Most likely it is either the heater core fan or a cloged line. Considering the year of your car its most likely that its a modern built car which are more prone to unusual premature problems compared to the build quality of vintage cars. Most likely its still the heater core fan or clogged lines (especially if you don't use enough antifreeze and your radiator starts to rust.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 The thermostat has nothing to do with this!!!! If the thermostat is bad the engine would be overheating!!! I replaced the original thermostat in one of my cars, it was damn near 35 years old!!!! Let alone the heater core was clogged at 36 years of use. I've seen diesel thermostats run longer than that and they run at higher temps!!! That's only the cause if the thermostat is failing in closed position, if it's permanently open then you won't get any heat to talk about. It may of course be that someone forgot to insert a thermostat at all in the car! But in the end - since this is a warranty issue it's not worth to put too much energy into analyzing it by boiling thermostats or so. But from what I suspect it's just that the heating system is bypassing the heater and just blows cold air. Can be a connector, a motor or the ventilation control unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjundi Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 I concur on take it to the dealer. However I also would check the radiator fluid level. If it is too low you are not going to get any heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinny2559 Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 Got it fixed, the temperature adjusting dial was not connected to the valve. Now I have some nice toasty heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianspi Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Using the heat in August? enough zip ties and duct tape will fix anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS5689 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Using the heat in August? It gets cold in Albany at night... I know how he feels. Gets pretty nippy on August nights in Maine also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smalls Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Got it fixed, the temperature adjusting dial was not connected to the valve. Now I have some nice toasty heat. I'm having the same problem. Where does the dial connect to the valve?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Legacy Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Is this something I can easily check/fix myself? I believe I'm having the same issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinny2559 Posted September 8, 2008 Author Share Posted September 8, 2008 It connects right behind the panel where all of the dials are. As for you, Alaskan, do you have the digital climate control (I'm asking because you have a limited). If so, yours may be a little different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Legacy Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Yeah mine is digital. Hmm, maybe I'll try taking a look, I'm really gonna be needing the heat here soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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