nemo Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 https://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/the-subaru-viziv-7-is-the-seven-seat-suv-that-will-ceme-1789096061 If you don't vote Trump, out, you're a bigot who hates america. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Need to photoshop that into my driveway...now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 again, it will all come down to engine. subaru need to build a H6T for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 No they don't, they need to make it in orange, that is all the wife needs to be happy! Seriously though, this thing should get the FA20DIT at a minimum and hopefully a newer, stronger, more reliable version of the HT-CVT cause I don't want to have to buy the extended warranty, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JF1GG29 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 It looks ridiculous. Like a Highlander and an F150 had a child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEE-OTTO Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Well I would bet Toyota had a hand in the design and it will probably share a facility with the Toyota variant so that makes sense. It will need more power unless they have a H8 in the works it will need a boosted Boxer to appease the USDM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJMC Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 again, it will all come down to engine. subaru need to build a H6T for this. You can. Go to a Volvo dealer http://assets.volvocars.com/us/~/media/us/images/xc90/my17/gallery/xc90-luxury-suv-exterior-v2.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 yawnsville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Well I would bet Toyota had a hand in the design and it will probably share a facility with the Toyota variant so that makes sense. It will need more power unless they have a H8 in the works it will need a boosted Boxer to appease the USDM. Toyota is not sharing facilities with Subaru any longer, and their cooperation is based mostly on hybrid technology and the BRZ/FRS. Of all the automakers, Toyota is the least likely to need help selling/designing/engineering vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 To me it feels like manufacturers today are so limited by regulations that all they can resort to are small differences in pattern, trim and paint colors. What's left for enthusiasts is the stuff under the hood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Here is Subaru's press release http://media.subaru.com/pressrelease/1051/1/subaru-viziv-7-concept-makes-world-debut-2016 If it is anything like Subaru's other concept vehicles, it will probably end up looking an larger Outback with some design cues from the concept vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 If it carries through with the upright cabin like the forester, but larger I will be pleased. As for the engine, with CAFE standards set to increase for the foreseeable future I dont expect to see anything larger than a DIT 4 or DI H6. Subaru has all but neutered performance in everything thats not a wrx. The body shape to me closely resembles the current Highlander. Cars do tend to follow cookie cutter patterns, but you have to remember aerodynamics affects vehicles in the same way no matter who builds them. So in a way manufacturers are limited to what changes they can make, we as consumers, demand: space, luxury, visibility, safety, fuel economy, and low prices. Car makers have to make a profit, which is hard if not impossible to do when you build one-off parts for every car in your line-up. So the regulation you speak of is really just economics, and the regulators are the shareholders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theflystyle Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 You guys are forgetting Trump is our new president. All of those regulations will be a thing of the past. No need to worry about global warming. Bring back our 10MPGS! /sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssbtech Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Release the parking brake and hope for a tailwind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkshooter Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 I like it. Arse for every seat, they say. I'm also a poosey loving, white, middle aged, manly male who gets dirty at blue collar work. A deplorable. And I voted. Yup, arse for every seat. I hope they build it and I hope it looks just like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utc_pyro Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Bring back our 10MPGS! I'd be happy if my LGT got that in Urban driving! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blcnghtsky Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Was just at the Subaru dealership today and I asked about some juicy details about upcoming Subarus Salesman said their manager just came back from a gathering of Subaru people's and they got a look at the 3 row SUV to which he said it was "pretty sharp looking". Get this... he said it will be a Forester with a 3rd row. I questioned him about it asking where the Ascent name came from and he sort of looked at me funny. Said it will be the size of a Highlander, and have the 2.0 DIT and can tow 4500lbs. Also said they are looking at a 2018 redesign on the Outback, said redesign not refresh. Didn't hear anything regarding the Legacy. I'm just passing along what I was told, take it as you see fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbieGT Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 This is essentially what we're looking at. http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/750x422/quality/95/https://s.blogcdn.com/slideshows/images/slides/406/546/7/S4065467/slug/l/subarutribeca-g01-kgp-ed-1.jpg Granted it's a prototype so the exterior may just be a jigsaw puzzle of pieces from previous models. Looks like an outback front end, forester tail lights, etc. Brakes are off of a 3.6r which gives me hope for an H6 variant. Only time will tell.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syndicate Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 ...I think the concept looks promising. It should make a solid Tribeca replacement, I'll wait for the second model year though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Viziv.....actually it will be called the Ascend and come with a surprise engine! When was the last time subaru surprised anyone? Expect nothing and you will never be disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Viziv.....actually it will be called the Ascend and come with a surprise engine! A 3 cylinder turbocharged engine just because they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 The pilot team, team leader, said it was to have a 2.2 turbo. That would be awesome if a 2.2L DIT was the replacement for the 3.6R and made its way into the Outback/Legacy model lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blcnghtsky Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 So then the 2.2l DIT would replace the H6? Or would that be the base engine with the 3.6 (smaller H6 we've heard about??) as an option? Or do you think this will be a one engine only?? Second follow up question, would this supposed 2.2DIT then become the standard in all vehicles (the new 2.5NA or sorts?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Considering Subaru is still putting 2.5s in their lineup I doubt they are going away anytime soon. I would expect a 2.2DIT to be the new hi power engine, and the H6 will probably go away. If you consider what other automakers are doing with their larger vehicles, the turbo H6 makes even less sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golferdude1087 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 This thing has similar dimensions to a Tahoe. If that is true, it should tip the scales at over 5000 lbs. With that weight the 2.0DIT will be woefully under powered, even if they use the levorg motor (295/296) Lets continue the on the Tahoe path, at just under 5400 lbs it has a 5.3 V8 with 355/383 tq, - C&D pegs 0-60 at 7.2 and quarter is 15.5. this is with a hp/lb of 15.2 Lets put the Viziv at 5000 lbs with the 295/296 we get a hp/lb of 16.95 ~17 Subaru HAS to give it significantly more then 300 hp otherwise this thing will crawl. Either a larger displacement DIT motor, a revised H6, or a turbo H6. (Maybe a pipe dream H8? HAHA) Knowing subaru they will do something silly since they have this vendetta of making sure the STi has the most power in their lineup at all costs. The problem is this WILL cost more then an STi (the tahoe starts at nearly 50k) so its going to either get a brand new engine, or the car will flop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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