cfaber Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Hi guys, Well it seems my TOB is going bad at roughly ~70K miles on my '06 GT. So at this point I'm thinking I'm going to replace the TOB, friction plate, fly wheel, etc. (full clutch job). The car is currently stage 1 and I don't plan on any upgrades any time soon, so I'm wondering what clutch kits I should be looking at, at this point. I was thinking about just exedy OEM replacement but would be willing to after-market upgrade if it gets me a bit more performance and roughly the same amount of mileage. Thanks! Winning the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEE-OTTO Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 OEM it is very driveable, will hold up over the long haul and is cheap Your current power levels and future power goal don't appear to exceed the OEM holding capacity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfaber Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 so I'm looking at this kit as a replacement http://www.partsgeek.com/gbproducts/WC/18220-01005334.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=ff&utm_term=2005-2009+Subaru+Legacy+Clutch+Kit+Exedy+05-09+Subaru+Clutch+Kit+2008+2006&utm_content=YN&utm_campaign=PartsGeek+Google+Base I'm wondering if I should replace the fly wheel as well, if I do what would you suggest? Winning the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-lo Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 just replaced mine in my 05 with a whole kit from the 07-09GT. single mass flywheel and everything. so far I love it 258k miles - Stock engine/minor suspension upgrades/original shocks/rear struts replaced at 222k/4 passenger side wheel bearings/3 clutches/1 radiator/3 turbos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquoyle Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 c-lo, did you replace it with oem '07-'09GT? MY throw out bearing started to make some noise a couple of weeks ago but it wasn't consistent. Today the engine was revving but not too much power to the wheels- the pedal still feels good though. I have an 05 OBxt with 75K, replaced turbo this summer with BNR16g but not looking for much else until deal with the suspension. I've been getting quotes up to $1700 from Subaru. $600 for labor. That seems pricey to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman33 Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 talk to MSprank and go for the Clutchmasters FX300(stock like pedal feel) and Single Mass FW. I have the Exedy Flywheel so it grabs a little more aggressively but still a great setup. Totally liveable for around town. You won't be dissappointed, PROMISE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfaber Posted November 2, 2011 Author Share Posted November 2, 2011 talk to MSprank and go for the Clutchmasters FX300(stock like pedal feel) and Single Mass FW. I have the Exedy Flywheel so it grabs a little more aggressively but still a great setup. Totally liveable for around town. You won't be dissappointed, PROMISE I was thinking about Exedy as this is what I put on the wife's 03 WRX. Did you have to do anything special to fit the SM flywheel on ? Winning the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypher0117 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Did you have to do anything special to fit the SM flywheel on ? nothing special fitment wise. To take the dmfw off make sure you get the TP50 socket: http://www.fredbeansparts.com/index.php/torx-plus-tp50-bit.html if you use a T50 socket you'll likely end up in a world of hurt. Most recommend getting hex head bolts for the smfw, while a good idea, not completely necessary. Once unbolted, take the dmfw out and replace with the smfw and tighten the bolts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appletechLGT Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I just had the same thing happen to my 05 LGT @ 77k. I just finished the break in period of the Exedy Stage 1 Organic, along with the matching lightweight flywheel from Exedy. Its pretty awesome, my car is pretty much stock at the moment but while it was apart I figured why the hell not. Awesome throttle response and improved shifting. Also as a unexpected side affect (to me anyways), if you drive the car conservatively with the lightweight flywheel I'm getting better gas mileage, which is great seeing I drive 100 miles a day. But on the flip side its way worse if you push it, but so much fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfaber Posted November 10, 2011 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 Yeah I ended up pulling the trigger on an FJK1001FW kit from Exedy, basically the same OEM clutch that's in there now, hopefully on this one I get more than ~70K out of the TOB =) Funny enough though, as soon as the new clutch arrived the TOB noise stopped and the clutch has been acting pretty good. Go figure.. Winning the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sactojesse Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Make sure to install a TSK3 while you're at it: http://www.fredbeansparts.com/index.php/subaru-legacy-gt-tranquil-tsk3-sleeve-kit.html Chances are your TOB has done a number on the snout/quill of your transmission. My original TOB went out at 89K and did some damage. I replaced it w/ a stock weight SMFW and the ACT HD clutch kit. So far, 24K miles and no issues. *crosses fingers* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfaber Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 No problems with the quill upon pulling it apart, replaced everything with the FJK1001FW, I like it a lot, slightly lighter fly wheel is great. Winning the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_j Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 getting this kit installed along with a tsk3 kit. hope the clutch pedal feels lighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I will be putting in an ACT streetlite flywheel in with a exedy stage 1 clutch on my 05GT. Anyone here has this combo already?? I heard it makes a lot of noise on decel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowwill Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Is it possible that the TOB can go bad while the clutch is good? Reason usually when its cold out after sitting over night it will squeal. Press clutch and it stop. Clutch seems to grab nicely and the rpm's goes with the engine speed. 99k 05OBXT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowImg Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Is it possible that the TOB can go bad while the clutch is good? Reason usually when its cold out after sitting over night it will squeal. Press clutch and it stop. Clutch seems to grab nicely and the rpm's goes with the engine speed. 99k 05OBXT. Absolutely, search around a bit, there was a huge issue of premature TOB failures on the Legacy. Though at 100k on an 05, it may not be premature. It would probably be a good idea to go ahead and replace the clutch when you do it though, no reason not to at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfaber Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 yes the 05 and 06 model years have many reports of TOB failure. in my case the clutch, fly wheel, etc were fine. But i ended up replacing it all because most of the cost involved was just getting to the TOB. Winning the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowwill Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 When it goes it goes huh. Car wont move? Gonna search now. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfaber Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 You really want to replace it before it fails completely. Having it total fail can lead to much more serious and expensive problems. Winning the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEE-OTTO Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Here is a odd question BUT are there any manufacturers of BEEFY TOB's ? Or has anyone ever cross ref another TOB that would fit our Legacys? I only ask bc i read of TOB failures frequently and wondering if the TOB is just too skimpy. I will be due up for a clutch on 20-22K miles by my calculations and use of a pen camera with LED So of course ill go with a TSK3 but would be nice to future proof the TOB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfaber Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 I honestly think it's these TOB's. I've never had one fail in my Jeep and my Wife's '03 bugeye has zero problems with it. Though it does need a new clutch. Winning the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowImg Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 The TSK comes with a new oversized TOB that should be pretty beefy. There's really no reason for the TOB to fail other than something causing excessive wear on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfaber Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 Yeah, or manufacture defect. Winning the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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