stuck686 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 im looking at a car that is stage 2 tuned and has an uppipe and downpipe but not a full exhaust. is this an appropriate set up or a full exhaust needed? stock intake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f1anatic Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Even stock cars have up- and down- pipes. A tune and aftermarket pipes (understood to be without catalytic converters for the most part though high flows are available) is all that is needed to be Stage 2. I suggest you do look up the wiki threads to further your basic tubocharged Subaru knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 what he said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/unofficial-legacy-gt-stage-upgrade-definitions-48123.html http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/begin-modifications-your-legacy-gt-19037.html http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/28012621.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuck686 Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 thanks i guess those links cover it. one of those says with stage 2 a full exhaust is recommended.. so with a catless pipe and stock exhaust is it restricting something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 recommended, but not needed. you can run stage 2 with a catless UP and HFC DP all day long. no issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Stay stock or go stage 3. Stage 2 is just a placeholder while your wallet prepares for the inevitable. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuck686 Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 Stay stock or go stage 3. Stage 2 is just a placeholder while your wallet prepares for the inevitable. turbo fail? how long does stage 2 take for that to happen. the car i am looking at has 48k miles and has been stage 2 since 34k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stuck686 Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 http://www.freewebs.com/liun/austin/bertstare.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Motion Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Stay stock or go stage 3. Stage 2 is just a placeholder while your wallet prepares for the inevitable. lol...so true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 turbo fail? how long does stage 2 take for that to happen. the car i am looking at has 48k miles and has been stage 2 since 34k boredom turbos can fail, yes. but not as often as people on this forum like you to think. when a performance oriented car part fails; people tend to spread the word - and bad news travels fast. hence dozens and dozens (or more) of threads about failed turbos, but very few about "wow my turbo still works after 200k miles" I ran 20psi on my stock vf46 for nearly 20k miles and it was fine other than a wastegate crack similar to what is typical of vf39s. Hammerdown has 200k on his stock turbo - many of the miles are stage1 miles. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuck686 Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 nice to hear that, i am getting a leakdown inspection on wed as well i am new to turbos so buying a tuned car is a bit of a mystery to me but it felt very solid when i drove it.good pull turbo sounded healthy, didnt have any low rpm flutter like another stage 2 legacy i drove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 http://www.freewebs.com/liun/austin/bertstare.jpg http://craigswarehouse.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/ernie.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 i am new to turbos so buying a tuned car is a bit of a mystery to me but it felt very solid when i drove it.good pull turbo sounded healthy, didnt have any low rpm flutter like another stage 2 legacy i drove A 30 second vac leak fix is the likely culprit on that car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasejase Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 did i miss what year your car was? Only the 05-07's required up-pipe replacement or modification. After that, they are catless from the factory. Guess its irrelevant anyways after i read your first post again lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuck686 Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 2005. i didnt buy it yet tho has a cobb up and down pipe, stage 2 map, stock filter stock exhaust. tuned to 91 when it was sold stock. last year http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2126534 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 07 is catless too, fyi lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasejase Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 oops... you're right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Said it before and say it again... Stage 2 is merely all the prep work for stage 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuck686 Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 noob question but what is common to upgrade with a slightly bigger turbo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 common and required: downpipe, intercooler, clutch optional: uppipe, ebcs, intake, injectors, fuel pump lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuck686 Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 common and required: downpipe, intercooler, clutch optional: uppipe, ebcs, intake, injectors, fuel pump yikes. already has the up/down pipe. how do u pick out injector size?? and what about the BOV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 yikes. already has the up/down pipe. how do u pick out injector size?? and what about the BOV ya bpv too, forgot to mention. it is optional unless you go above 19psi-ish injectors depend on turbo size and fuel. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuck686 Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 what a popular turbo to upgrade to? nothing crazy but a little bigger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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