subie368 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 So im new to the forum and recently purchased a 2005 subaru legacy gt limited 5mt at stage 2 about 3 months ago. Just got done with my stage 3 install and Infamous tune and im running way to rich. In learning view my IAM is 1.00 and all my fuel trims are -14.99. When I first start the car in the morning it cranks then stumbles, almost stalls out a d then revs back up to where it's suppose to and smells like gas from the exhaust. While driving it hesitates and at 3/4 throttle (highest iv pushed it so far since stage 3) it doesn't even have the power that stage 2 had. Any ideas as to what my issue is?? Im thinking its all in the tune I received but I can't get ahold of anyone at infamous iv been trying for over a week with no responses or help from shamar. Is it safe to be driving since its my dd?? Here is my mod list: Bnr 18g Dw 740cc injectors Dw 65c fuel pump Fms tmic Perrin inlet k&n typhoon intake Grimmspeed ebcs Grimmspeed crank pulley Invidia up pipe Cut catted downpipe Infamous oil lines Gfb 50/50 bov (running at 50% recirc) Infamous stage 3 tune Think that's it. Appreciate the help guys!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCASEYS Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 2 posts 4 this? I donated to LegacyGT.com which allows me to have this nifty signature. If anything SCASEYS posts ever becomes a sticky i'm gonna light this whole place on fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subie368 Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 What do you mean 2 posts? I just joined the forum after 2 months of reading on it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subie368 Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 Also my check engine light came on yesterday and I had 2 codes for bank 1/2 running rich.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subie368 Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 Just realized 2 posts went up instead of 1.. not sure how that happened I only pushed the button once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-lo Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Deleted your other post! 258k miles - Stock engine/minor suspension upgrades/original shocks/rear struts replaced at 222k/4 passenger side wheel bearings/3 clutches/1 radiator/3 turbos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCASEYS Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 so, check for vacuum leaks hoses popped off etc... I donated to LegacyGT.com which allows me to have this nifty signature. If anything SCASEYS posts ever becomes a sticky i'm gonna light this whole place on fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subie368 Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 Thanks for deleting the other! Scaseys wouldn't running lean be a vacuum leak? Or you leaning towards the idea that the computer is trying to compensate for a major vacuum leak/lean condition by dumping fuel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCASEYS Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 can you get a learning view posted up? paging e-tuners... I donated to LegacyGT.com which allows me to have this nifty signature. If anything SCASEYS posts ever becomes a sticky i'm gonna light this whole place on fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subie368 Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 How do I go about getting it on here I have one saved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 You were running fine and all of a sudden this just happened? How long ago did you get your infamous tune? That infamous tune was done with all of the listed mods installed already? send a pm to m_sprank regarding infamous and shamar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subie368 Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 No my car was stage 2 on the stock vf40 when I bought it. I was told by the previous owner it was ti ed by infamous and was on stage 2. When I bought it all it gad for parts was the up pipe, down pipe, k&n typhoon, and the tune. It ran perfect on this setup. Now after all the listed mods and loading my new stage 3 tune its been acting this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmx045 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 you just installed the injectors with the turbo, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumblinaviator Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Take a learning view snapshot (.jpg) and post it as an attachment. It's my understanding most Stage 3 initial tunes are on the rich side for safety reasons, then it gets scaled down slowly over the course of the revisions. Yours, however, seems to be on the extreme side of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06_legacygt Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Is it a Infamous tune? If so Datalog it and send them a copy of the log. If you bought the stage 3 tune from them Im pretty sure you get revisions to get the tune dialed in 2006 Legacy GT 5EAT Perrin UP, SPT CAI, OBXR CBE, Catless DP, Perrin TMIC, Stage 2 AP tune Soon after BNR 16G, Infamous Tune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subie368 Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 Yea I installed the injectors, pump, turbo, ebcs, tmic, oil lines, and tune at the same time. Yes it is an Infamous stage 3 tune. My concerns are im not going to log a full throttle pull and send it to shamar if its running like this. I really don't think its a very good idea. I do however have a learning view that was sent to shamar twice and called twice and its been over a week with no help. I talked to mike from infamous and he was trying to get ahold of shamar...but for now until I hear anything back im just trying to figure out if anyone else has any ideas or if this has happened to them. I also understand that the first base map should obviously be rich rather then lean to avoid burning up the engine but its defiantly way way way to rich and im starting to wonder if its safe to even daily drive taking it east on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmx045 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 injectors should be tuned on your base map if shamar knew you had 740's in to begin with.... the scalar and the latencies (which he likely knows off the top of his head) should be input in, after that it should be much closer to acceptable trims... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmx045 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 it *should* be okay to WOT seeing as its rich, and it's confirmed it is (atleast in closed loop), there is a chance of carbon fouling the plugs if it is too rich...though not sure how likely that is to happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subie368 Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 Yes I gave him the list of all my mods before I reieved my base map Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compsurge Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Check for boost leaks and vacuum leaks. Learning view will tell you a lot here. buy a boost leak tester and hook it up to a compressor. Don't push the car. The A/F correction is maxed out at +/- 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 it almost sounds like your injectors are scaled completely wrong... hmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmx045 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 even base maps shouldn't throw a rich code. he must have forgotten to input the scalar and latencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compsurge Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Maybe they bought the OEM fueling stage 3 tune? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmx045 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 both stage 3 e-tunes listed on their site say oem fueling, even when you click on the one that says stage 3 e-tune. under detailed description Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subie368 Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 Yea idk what's the issue but im def leaning towards the tune. I did look at the tune quick and noticed it says 740 under injectors in romraider...the dw box def said 740cc too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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