NSFW Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 So, 3 guys + 1 car + 1 FMIC + 10 hours = 93 pictures, and... Great Success! The car runs fine, and the fog lights are still in place. Since I'm still running the stock turbo and tune, I can't really comment on the performance aspects. I'm pretty sure it will serve me well when the rest of the upgrades are in place, though. It took a long time, and I have a lot of pictures, so I don't plan to post everything in one sitting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSFW Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 You'll want to pull the bumper and the bumper beam, and also the plastic tray you see below the radiator here. I tried cutting slots in that tray to allow the core's mounting tabs to reach their mounting points, but that didn't seem possible. Looking at these pictures again, I think it might be possible to keep that tray if you cut off the top inch below the radiator. http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z151/Legacy_NSFW/FMIC%20Install%20Day/FMIC2023.jpg In fact, the tray wasn't the only thing getting in the way. The bottom of the core hit the bracket in the center of the radiator at the points where you see the two red dots. Easy19 and the man with the lift (hereafter, TMWTL Citka) taped up the back of the core, painted the tape red, and hung it from the top mounting point, transferring the red dots you see below. Also, to the right, note that the AC sensor has been mounted on the back of its tab, and still had to be bent back, causing some paint flaking. http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z151/Legacy_NSFW/FMIC%20Install%20Day/FMIC2030.jpg Same thing, different angle: http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z151/Legacy_NSFW/FMIC%20Install%20Day/FMIC2029.jpg Unfortunately for Easy10, TMWTL Citka located an angle grinder before the Sawzall could be found: http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z151/Legacy_NSFW/FMIC%20Install%20Day/FMIC2038.jpg Result: http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z151/Legacy_NSFW/FMIC%20Install%20Day/FMIC2040.jpg I think there may have been more grinding after that, but I'm not sure. The bare metal was sanded and given a liberal coat of touch-up paint, as was the aforementioned AC temperature sensor mounting tab. Tight fit: http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z151/Legacy_NSFW/FMIC%20Install%20Day/FMIC2052.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSFW Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 Next problem: http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z151/Legacy_NSFW/FMIC%20Install%20Day/FMIC2042.jpg Unfortunately for Easy19, TMWTL Citka felt that this cutting wheel would be more appropriate than the Sawzall: http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z151/Legacy_NSFW/FMIC%20Install%20Day/FMIC2045.jpg Solved: http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z151/Legacy_NSFW/FMIC%20Install%20Day/FMIC2055.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSFW Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 So, the core mounts, and that's enough pictures for tonight. Does Easy19 ever get to use the Sawzall? Stay tuned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucas569 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 lazy sub... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow05gtRI Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 is that the AEM CAI you have installed with the FMIC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tor Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Wish I was there to make stupid comments and drink beer (citka and easy...recognize!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSFW Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 is that the AEM CAI you have installed with the FMIC? Yes. The heat shield had to be trimmed to fit the turbo-to-IC pipe, but that's about all. I just realized that I didn't get any pictures of the trimmed shield, but I'll take one later. If you search for this site for AEM and AVO FMIC you'll find a picture of someone else's install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSaladino Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 the search results probably brought up my install. NSFW, did you have a problem putting the bumper beam back in? my mounting hardware was screwed up a bit, so i just didnt put the bumper beam back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enthusiast Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Looks good so far. It is nice when you have someone there to help out. My mod list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucas569 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 *chants* more pics!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeFromPA Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I love the sawzall as much as the next person.....but I'm pretty much off using them on plumbing connected to important parts. I cut a 3" PVC sewage pipe as I was re-routing the pipe in a new direction. The leverage action of the PVC pipe, connected to a toilet 5' feet away, caused the whole house to shake/vibrate. My toilet bowl broke it's wax seal (allowing it to "tinkle" down through the open ceiling), candles fell off walls in the house, and God only knows what other damage/aging I did. Grinding wheel FTW so far Joe P.s. Am I the only one who thinks the engine bay looks SO much better with the intercooler relocated to the front and no plastic engine cover? I'm no detailed-engine freak, but I so want my engine to look like that with a nice new battery, black hoses, and a shined up engine bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSFW Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 Looks good so far. It is nice when you have someone there to help out. Absolutely. I'm super glad I didn't end up doing this by myself. There are steps that really demand a person on each side of the car, and there were even times where it was useful to have a person on each side holding something (bumper, beam, core, etc) and a third person checking the fit. Also, as a relative n00b to car work, it helped (enormously) to be working with two experienced people. There were plenty of times where if this was a solo project I would have just stopped and cursed, but their attitude was always, "we can fix that with..." and that kept us moving forward the whole time. the search results probably brought up my install. NSFW, did you have a problem putting the bumper beam back in? my mounting hardware was screwed up a bit, so i just didnt put the bumper beam back in. That was one of the more aggravating tasks, but we did get it mounted. Our first problem was not reading the instructions. Our second problem was not really understanding the instructions even after we read them. And then, we did not quite believe the instructions even after we figured out what they meant. We did get it back on though, and there will be pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Result: http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z151/Legacy_NSFW/FMIC2040.jpg Isn't that going to have a small affect on the structural rigidity of the car? Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSFW Posted November 11, 2008 Author Share Posted November 11, 2008 Here's that the pic again, since I moved it a minute ago: http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z151/Legacy_NSFW/FMIC%20Install%20Day/FMIC2040.jpg I'm not going to lose sleep over it. I wouldn't want to do that sort of grinding in the middle of that pillar, but right down there near the welds doesn't bother me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 You could probably remove that pillar altogether and not affect anything, I would be more concerned about losing the towing eye. Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSFW Posted November 11, 2008 Author Share Posted November 11, 2008 Well yeah. All fun and games until somebody's car loses an eye... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucas569 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 pix! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSFW Posted November 11, 2008 Author Share Posted November 11, 2008 If you can't see the pictures, that's because I just moved them and haven't finished updating the posts. Don't panic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NSFW Posted November 11, 2008 Author Share Posted November 11, 2008 http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z151/Legacy_NSFW/FMIC%20Install%20Day/FMIC2056.jpg Above is the frame rail on the driver's side. The FMIC piping needs to make a pretty tight U-turn here, with the fog light pressing up against the other side of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSFW Posted November 11, 2008 Author Share Posted November 11, 2008 This may not be strictly necessary, but since other folks here complained of difficulty getting enough space for the fog lights: http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z151/Legacy_NSFW/FMIC%20Install%20Day/FMIC2060.jpg (and because Citka wouldn't let Easy19 use the Sawzall...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSFW Posted November 11, 2008 Author Share Posted November 11, 2008 There's a thick weld back there, which seemed kind of important, so only a few millimeters were removed: http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z151/Legacy_NSFW/FMIC%20Install%20Day/FMIC2064.jpg Both sides got that treatment, actually. It's a tight fit. http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z151/Legacy_NSFW/FMIC%20Install%20Day/FMIC2079.jpg http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z151/Legacy_NSFW/FMIC%20Install%20Day/FMIC2080.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSFW Posted November 11, 2008 Author Share Posted November 11, 2008 Behind the area shown above, just forward of the wiper fluid reservoir... I should have taken a "before" picture, but you can probably guess what this tab looked like before I snipped it off. It was poking into the FMIC piping and threatening to eventually wear through it: http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z151/Legacy_NSFW/FMIC%20Install%20Day/FMIC2065.jpg It was deburred and given some touch-up paint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSFW Posted November 11, 2008 Author Share Posted November 11, 2008 The bypass valve blows into a tube that runs behind the intake manifold. That tube needs to be cut, and a 90-degree elbow (supplied with the FMIC kit) needs to be attached. Far as we could tell, removing the pipe would require removing the intake manifold. Far as we could tell, that was going to be a huge pain in the ass. Cutting the pipe with would put dust into it... while plastic dust isn't terribly likely to harm the engine, it didn't sit well with any of us. Besides, it's too cramped back there to wield the Sawzall. Behold the greatest stroke of genius in the history of FMICification: http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z151/Legacy_NSFW/FMIC%20Install%20Day/FMIC2072.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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