srgdrum Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 What do you recomend? Full synthetic? A blend or just what the owners manual suggests? Also if you were going to take your new Subie in for general service that's had an ECU flash to TDC stage one would you unmarry and go back to stock? Before the 'noob burns' start flying I did read the whole "Subaru Pronouncement on synth oil" but the question seems to be unanswered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motoracer Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 first oil change should be done around 500mi then every 3,000mi. use regular oil until you hit you 9,000 or 12,000mi then switch to synthetic. don't worry about u'r ECU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt 45ss Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 how often do you change your syth? 10,000 too long? 7500?better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 i change it every 3000 no matter what oil i use. it may be a waste but at least i wont ever have to worry about oil breakdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinlsb Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Any kind of good oil is fine. My experience with synthetic oils is that the motor burns a lot of it up. If you change to synthetic, check your oil often. Other than that, its a matter of taste. "Belief does not make truth. Evidence makes truth. And belief does not make evidence." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenchan Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Any kind of good oil is fine. My experience with synthetic oils is that the motor burns a lot of it up. If you change to synthetic, check your oil often. Other than that, its a matter of taste. is that true for subies only? cause im running synthetic on my G35C and Cooper-S and they don't eat up much oil that you can really detect on the dipstick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinlsb Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 is that true for subies only? cause im running synthetic on my G35C and Cooper-S and they don't eat up much oil that you can really detect on the dipstick. Gee, I don't know! I put the best Mobil 1 in my Subie and it ate a quart in 500 miles. Went back to Dino, no problem. I just don't know! (15,000 change) And I do not push the motor! All I know is that it ate a lot of synthetic. "Belief does not make truth. Evidence makes truth. And belief does not make evidence." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenchan Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Gee, I don't know! I put the best Mobil 1 in my Subie and it ate a quart in 500 miles. Went back to Dino, no problem. I just don't know! (15,000 change) And I do not push the motor! All I know is that it ate a lot of synthetic. i see! hummm.... im gonna put synthetic in my legacy tomorrow so i'll need to keep a close eye on it then. thanks for the headsup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azca Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 change to synthetic at ~5000miles then change the oil every 5k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srgdrum Posted October 6, 2006 Author Share Posted October 6, 2006 Wow! That's a lot of oil usage! THis is my first oil change. It seems that most people say to go dino until at least 5,000. So I'll go one more change then to full synth! Thanks for the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenchan Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 my legacy is at about 12.5k miles, so should be good to go. also picked up my crush washer today and ordered the wiper refills (inserts) for the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenchan Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 how are you guys torquing down the oil filter once it's on there? just hand tighten? usually on my other cars, i hand tighten and then use a wrench to give it another 1/4 turn...but there's no way an hell i can get my regular oil wrench between those pipes... thanks. regardless, other then that, it went fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meier motor sports Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 as per any oil filter. spin the filter till it contacts the gasket, not till u cant spinn it by hand, jsut till it contacts. then 1/4 turn more. some say a different amount of turn, go by that. the filter does not need to be insanly tight. jsut good and snug really. its not going any where Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenchan Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 ^^ thanks, meier motor sports. it's nice and snug. not overly tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meier motor sports Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 thats the way to go. about as tight as u can go by hand assuming you arnt a gorrila is good rule of thump to go buy. dont try and impress anyone how tigh u can make it. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerMan Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 I always put them on so that it is a "little" hard to get off by hand. So a 1/4 turn past spinning freely would be a fair description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillboy Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 Don't you guys read the instructions on the filters? I believe (too lazy to go to the garage) Subaru says 3/4 turn after gasket makes contact. I have seen some in the past that said 1 turn. I would be afraid of only 1/4 turn. I spin mine down by hand until the gasket touches, make a mark on the filter with a Sharpie so that when I finish with the 3/4 turn the mark faces the front of the car. I use my wrench to tighten it the 3/4 turn. Don't over tighten as you may deform the gasket and cause a leak. Always check to make sure the old gasket comes off with the old filter-had it stay on the engine once. It is still ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenchan Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Don't you guys read the instructions on the filters? I believe (too lazy to go to the garage) Subaru says 3/4 turn after gasket makes contact. I have seen some in the past that said 1 turn. I would be afraid of only 1/4 turn. I spin mine down by hand until the gasket touches, make a mark on the filter with a Sharpie so that when I finish with the 3/4 turn the mark faces the front of the car. I use my wrench to tighten it the 3/4 turn. Don't over tighten as you may deform the gasket and cause a leak. Always check to make sure the old gasket comes off with the old filter-had it stay on the engine once. it's kind of hard to mark a black oil filter with a sharpie. well, mine's a Mobil1 filter 110. anyway, i can't fit my oil wrench (large channel lock looking one) on it when torquing it down due to the surrounding pipes; that's why I asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillboy Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 it's kind of hard to mark a black oil filter with a sharpie Silver Sharpie or chalk. i can't fit my oil wrench (large channel lock looking one) on it Cap style FTW. It is still ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyd2005 Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Car mfgs actually have a torque setting for their oil filters. If you have a cap style wrench, you could use a torque wrench. I did it once on my old Acura. I was surprised at how tight the factory requirement was. For the record, I dry my hands and filter and then just turn it as much as I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenchan Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Silver Sharpie or chalk. Cap style FTW. yah yah, i need to get one of those man. both my legacy and G35C use the same filter size... oh btw, what size is that? I want to pick one up next time im at the auto parts store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenchan Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 For the record, I dry my hands and filter and then just turn it as much as I can. cool. thanks for the post. i did the same. i'll check the filter in a couple hundred miles if it loosened up a little or not, i suppose. i doubt that it'll come loose though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillboy Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 yah yah, i need to get one of those man. both my legacy and G35C use the same filter size... oh btw, what size is that? I want to pick one up next time im at the auto parts store. Don't waste your time at the auto parts stores like I did. Motorcycle shop. My post from another thread: Took me awhile to find my post from another thread: Quote: Thanks again for the cycle shop idea. First one I stopped at had exactly what I wanted. Suzuki Genuine Parts, part number 09915-40611. $5.31 including MN sales tax. Metal, cap-style wrench that accepts a 3/8" socket drive. This cap wrench fits the small black Subaru filter, not the larger white one. It is still ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenchan Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Don't waste your time at the auto parts stores like I did. Motorcycle shop. My post from another thread: This cap wrench fits the small black Subaru filter, not the larger white one. thanks pillboy... you wouldn't happen to know if that small black subaru filter is the diameter/size as the Mobil1 filters? Im running a M110 size... i *think* they are the same size on the end ..........!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyd2005 Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 I have an M110 and M108 sitting on my shelf so I compared the two. The M110 is just a tiny bit smaller than the OEM black oil filter. My cap wrench fits tight (no play at all) on the OEM oil filter but there is play on the M110. Having said that, I would still use it to remove the filter but I wouldn't use it to install it since it might damage the can. So... the M110 clears the skid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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