4thsubaru Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Hello Guys & Gals, I was looking at the Perrin Short Shifter Adapter and feel on VMS Racing, who seem to have a simialr product. https://www.vmsracing.com/products/2015-2016-subaru-wrx-billet-short-shifter-shift-adapter-also-11-15-legacy-gt Anybody know them or have experience with them or concerns. I saw the price and man that is one killer price, almost too good to be true!. I may pull the trigger but won't be able to install until the summer months looking for any input from the legacy gt crew. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarang Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 That looks like a copy of the Perrin product in all but color. They also have a cheap bushing and shift stop that look like copies too. EDIT: They have lots of copies it looks like, and a really annoying website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrstacy Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 ^^^ agree. the website won't let you browse their wares with the constant pop-ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 run away. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellesedil Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 run away. You have to do it properly. http://slides.colliberty.com/PyConIE-2014/images/runaway.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWebb Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 FWIW the Perrin SS is the biggest POS they sell and they sell a lot of shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarang Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 FWIW the Perrin SS is the biggest POS they sell and they sell a lot of shit. why do you say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 why do you say that? I think the fitment is probably good and all. But seems like they rushed to bring it to market maybe most other ssa have weight to them just like the stocker. I can't personally say it makes a big difference, but I definitely like my boomba ssa. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarang Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 For sure I do like my Boomba as well, but if this or the perrin were way cheaper I could someone preferring not to pay more or even liking the non-weighted version. I just thought that "biggest POS they sell" meant he had a good story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWebb Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 why do you say that? have you seen or used one? or any Perrin products? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarang Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 have you seen or used one? or any Perrin products? Yes I have. I have their brass bushing, shift stop, subframe lock down kit, and a coupler installed currently. No issues so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 have you seen or used one? or any Perrin products? I've had one since they were newly released. No issues. I've found everything that I have on my car from Perrin is quality. TB hose, shift bushing, shifter stop, short shift adapter, and steering damper lockdown. I also have their turbo heat shield on the Fozz. I think they got a bad rap from one of their TMICs not fitting well on the 4th Gen Leggy. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWebb Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I've had one since they were newly released. No issues. I've found everything that I have on my car from Perrin is quality. TB hose, shift bushing, shifter stop, short shift adapter, and steering damper lockdown. I also have their turbo heat shield on the Fozz. I think they got a bad rap from one of their TMICs not fitting well on the 4th Gen Leggy. Maybe they changed but nothing from them fit well when I was outfiting my LGT. and the sorth throw shifter was crap i had from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Completely different car, completely different short throw shifter. You can't assume the oranges are bad just because the apples are. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWebb Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Completely different car, completely different short throw shifter. You can't assume the oranges are bad just because the apples are. im saying the farm is bad regardless of what they produce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsp0kn Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Initially I wanted to weight my shifter after installed the Perrin SSA but I have no complaints about it and have gotten used to it. Been perfect since install in early 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrD123 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I haven't had any issues with Perrin stuff, either. Just have the brass shifter bushing on this car, but had silicone intercooler hoses on my old wrx. Looks like VMS is duplicating a number of things from Perrin at lower prices - they have a brass shifter bushing for $17.88 (vs. $25 for Perrin) and the shift stop for $32.95 (vs. $43 from Perrin) - the shift stop even comes in 3 colors (which seems silly for a part you can't see when installed...). The short shifter is $46.95 vs. $94.50 for Perrin. VMS doesn't say if their short shifter is plated or not - it looks like it might be zinc plated, but the description just says it's steel (which will rust... a lot) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thsubaru Posted January 13, 2017 Author Share Posted January 13, 2017 About the VMS doesn't say if their short shifter is plated or not - it looks like it might be zinc plated, but the description just says it's steel (which will rust... a lot) VMS mentions "CNC MACHINED BILLET STEEL Zinc Plated VMS Racing Short Shifter Adapter for the 2015-2016 Subaru WRX with the 5 speed manual transmission, does not fit the STi. Will also fit the 2011-2015 Legacy GT with the manual transmission." So the only difference outside of price is one is yellow zinc plated the other is not. Also curious why they don't mention the 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 They probably never verified fitment. Just remember two parts are not equal just because they look alike. It is all in the quality of the metal used and the quality of the machining. And perrin has good CS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutchard Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Also curious why they don't mention the 2010. Being a US based company, I'm curious why they mentioned the 2013-2015 GT that don't exist, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 About the VMS mentions "CNC MACHINED BILLET STEEL Zinc Plated VMS Racing Short Shifter Adapter for the 2015-2016 Subaru WRX with the 5 speed manual transmission, does not fit the STi. Will also fit the 2011-2015 Legacy GT with the manual transmission." So the only difference outside of price is one is yellow zinc plated the other is not. Also curious why they don't mention the 2010. I've been meaning to get the Boomba short shift adapter. I will sell you my Perrin for $50 shipped CONUS. It has less than 10k miles on it and has lived in fair weather California since it was installed. I personally don't support companies that make knockoff parts. They didn't do the R&D, who knows the quality of their parts, and they are clearly copying the Perrin parts, all of them. It's not right. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrD123 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 So the only difference outside of price is one is yellow zinc plated the other is notI was reading the second paragraph where they mentioned billet steel, but apparently skipped right over what's like the 5th word in the first paragraph! doh! The yellow coating is typically a chromate coating and it's done to improve the corrosion resistance of the Zn. Zn is very active (which is why its used as the sacrificial material in galvanizing) so self corrosion can be an issue - by giving it a little protection, you make sure it can do it's job when the coating is damaged and the underlying steel is exposed, rather than corroding away before then! The yellow coating is a good engineering practice, but it does add cost, which is why for most zinc plated fasteners, you see bare zinc, rather than chromated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thsubaru Posted January 15, 2017 Author Share Posted January 15, 2017 I've been meaning to get the Boomba short shift adapter. I will sell you my Perrin for $50 shipped CONUS. It has less than 10k miles on it and has lived in fair weather California since it was installed. I personally don't support companies that make knockoff parts. They didn't do the R&D, who knows the quality of their parts, and they are clearly copying the Perrin parts, all of them. It's not right. Thanks appreciate the offer, but I am still on the fence about doing this mod, like most of us spend look of coin on the car, plus I am not in the ConUS, I am north of the border in Montreal all the way on the other of the continent so suspect shipping would not make it worth it. Thanks. Looks like you may some other takers based on the Thanks you got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcg_ Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 I personally don't support companies that make knockoff parts. They didn't do the R&D, who knows the quality of their parts, and they are clearly copying the Perrin parts, all of them. It's not right. I agree and try to do the same. Perrin should really file design patents on their parts to avoid direct knock-offs like these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Perrin might run into issues of their own with patent law, since they aren't making a new part really, they are just making a different version of the stock part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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