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So I just bought my 2005 Legacy GT last week and wasn't sure if the oil had been changed and wanted to be sure so I decided to change it. I tried searching this on here so I could make sure nothing was different from my other 2 Legacys(90 & 91) but couldn't find one. So I thought I would try and make a guide for those that have just newly acquired one of these fine automobiles or have never changed their own oil before. Also couldn't find torque values so that is here as well.

 

 

So first thing first. Buy the supplies and/or tools needed to complete oil change.

 

 

Oil filter

Crush washer for drain plug (Optional, if you don't use one and you know who you are be my guest. I always use one.)

4.8 Quarts of oil (whatever brand makes you happy, not getting into what brand so please don't start posting about this)

Ramps or Jack and Jackstands

17mm wrench

Torque wrench with 17mm socket (optional)

Funnel

Oil pan

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Time required: dependent upon the individual; my time was around an hour and a half. I like to clean things

 

 

Step 2: Raising vehicle

 

Place the vehicle in gear/park and use the Ebrake. For extra assurance, chalk one of the rear wheels. Either jack vehicle and place it on stands or use ramps. Ramps will only work if you aren't too low. Please be careful and take your time with either option. The factory manual that comes with the car will show you where and how to jack the car with the supplied jack located under the trunk carpet. Easy spot is the front middle jack pad and placing the stands on the rear control plates.

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Step 3: Removing lower cover

 

 

Now the oil change can be done by simply removing the clips for the engine oil filter service hole cover and then rotating it out of the way. I prefered to remove the whole cover so I can inspect the bottom of the engine and other components for corrosion, condition and security.

 

To remove the clips use a flat head and get underneath the head and using a twisting motion to unseat the clip. They can be a little tricky as they get dirt and such in them and make it hard to unclip. There are 3 in the front of the bumper, 1 on the rear of the cover and 1 on each side of the wheel well.

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Here is how the small oil filter cover rotates (Yes I am aware it is burnt. It is from the aftermarket headers)

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Here is the wheel well holes

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Filter and plug location

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Step 4: Filter and plug removal

 

 

:spin:CAUTION: If you just got home from work or a drive and completed the previous steps, let the car sit for atleast 20 minutes to cool. If you only started your car to place it on ramps as I did the car should be cool enough to continue.

;) Use your best judgement pertaining to how hot the car might be. I don't need a McDonalds lawsuit because I didn't tell you the car would be hot from driving it (although I just did).

 

 

Now place your oil drain pan under the plug and then take your 17mm wrench or socket wrench and remove the drain plug in a loosening/counterclockwise direction. Once it has started to rotate I slowly back it out by hand until it starts to drain, this helps me to control the flow otherwise you may end up with oil all over the place. Yes I am aware of the Fumoto Valve and that will not be discussed in this thread.

AGAIN if you can't hold onto the plug because it is burning your fingers stop to let the car sit and cool down.

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I do the same with the oil filter by rotating it in a loosening/counterclockwise direction until oil starts to drain from it. I do it for the same reason as the drain plug, to control flow and not make a mess.

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Now after you have removed the plug and filter you can take some time and inspect the underside of the engine while the oil drains. As I just recently purchased the car I wanted to make sure I didn't have any surprises. This is the best time to check your drive shaft boots for tears or leaking sterring rack or where that oil smell might be coming from. This might seem like a no brainer but actually take the time to look you might be surprised.

 

 

Step 5: Cleaning contact surfaces

 

 

Make sure to wipe the the old oil and dirt from the contacting surfaces of the filter and plug. *Also make sure none of the old rubber gasket remains stuck to the contecting surface. It can be removed with a non-metalic scraper if necessary.

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Step 6: Installing filter and oil drain plug

 

 

Now many may ask if it is necassary to replace the crush washer or gasket (as Subaru calls it). This is kind of like which oil should I use question. I never did on the other 2 Legacys and the Haynes manual doesn't even mention. However I will on this car as this is a very new car to me and I plan to do everything in my power to take care if it. Also as I pointed out the filter and gasket from Subaru cost next to nothing. *The gasket/crush washer SHOULD be Replaced EVERYTIME. Subaru was kind enough to label the filter so you don't forget what you're doing :rolleyes:

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Tried to take a close up of the gasket. I place the flat side on the plug end

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Now if you look at the filter you purchased, it will have insturctions directly on it for how to install it. Make sure to do the first step and place a little oil on the rubber gasket to make it seal properly. This is on the filter and in the manual. Sweet no guessing. Tighten as per instruction (usually 3/4 turn after contact with seating surface).

For the drain plug you will hand thread it in as to insure it doesn't become cross threaded and tighten it good-n-tight, not strip the threads tight! If you have a torque wrench then set torque to 33 FT-LBS/44 NM depending where you're from or as otherwise indicated. If you have pruchased an aftermarket drain plug it might have a different value.

Clean up any remaining oil from these areas and remove oil drain pan from underneath vehicle.

 

 

Step 7: Filling her up :cool:

 

 

Using the funnel is a car's best friend as it won't get fresh oil everywhere. If you didn't buy one you can cut the top off of a plastic bottle and use that. (great for road side emergencies).

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For this year and model it is required to place 4.8 Quarts of oil in. *The 4.8 Quarts includes oil and filter change. Your vehicle may have a different capacity. If you are not sure (you can check the manual also), the best thing would be to pour in 4 Quarts, wait a couple minutes check the stick and pour until it is at the F mark. Remember you can always add more, but pour too much and you will need to drain the extra oil.

 

Once you have filled the oil to the required level secure the cap and dipstick and you are almost done.

 

Step 8: Reinstall cover and clean up

 

You can reinstall the lower cover or leave it off, your choice. If you broke the clips you can use zip ties for a temporary fix so don't fret.

Double check that you removed all the tools from underneath the car and that there isn't a lake of oil under there. Close the hood and lower the car in the opposite manner that it was raised.

Job Complete ;)

 

Used oil can be deposited at must auto parts stores for no additional charge

 

Recording is a good way to remember when, how many miles and with what your fluid was replaced with. Great for noting any unusual things to keep an eye on. Also great for if you decide to sell the car.

Here is an example

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Thanks for reading/looking

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Good of you to do this with nice pictures. Thanks and welcome aboard. :) Also, I would say that changing the washer is a requirement. If you look at the old crush washer, its been visibly crushed from the tightening pressure. Good idea to replace it every single time, or else get a copper reuseable one and anneal it.
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Two comments:

 

First, when cleaning the oil filter mating surface MAKE SURE the o-ring from the old filter came off. It happens frequently, and it WILL cause problems.

 

Second, the crush washer should be replaced EVERY oil change.

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Does this amount include the oil filter? I know the FXT, WRX, and STI hold 4.8 quarts, including the filter, which is why a lot of people just add 5 quarts total.

 

-Dennis

 

Good question and yes the 4.2 Quarts includes the filter change. And again those jugs hold 5.28 Quarts (atleast the Mobil 1 does) which would be over capacity.

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Two comments:

 

First, when cleaning the oil filter mating surface MAKE SURE the o-ring from the old filter came off. It happens frequently, and it WILL cause problems.

 

Second, the crush washer should be replaced EVERY oil change.

 

Yes this is a must, should have clarified (old oil, dirt, old rubber gasket haha) I'll fix this. Yes BAC5.2 I agree that it should be replaced Every oil change but, I want it to be known that it can be done reusing the old crush washer/gasket.

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Good question and yes the 4.2 Quarts includes the filter change. And again those jugs hold 5.28 Quarts (atleast the Mobil 1 does) which would be over capacity.

 

4.2 is incorrect. The turbo cars take 4.8 and the jugs are not an issue to put in. There was a typo a few years back where the 4.2 number was thrown around. That is for the non turbo cars.

 

We have done literally 10,000 oil changes using a jug as our standard and a little over filled is not an issue.

 

-Mike Paisan

 

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I always put 5 quarts in (Rotella Jug plus one quart) and RX8 filters from the mazda dealer.

 

I havent used a crush washer since owning the car, and apparently the dealer that did the oil change where I bought the car didnt either.

 

I keep telling myself to just get a Fumoto valve with a new washer. Tool Free oil changes ftw.

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First off, this post has been handy for me (as I just did my first oil change on this car).

 

This has me somewhat worried now though. As I am comparing the photos you took, with a video I looked at earlier. Even though both claim to be for the same vehicle, I'm now thinking I may have removed the wrong bolt?

 

I watched the video at this site:

http://www.carcarekiosk.com/video/2007_Subaru_Legacy_2.5i_Special_Edition_2.5L_4_Cyl._Sedan/oil/change_oil_and_oil_filter

 

In part 3 of the video "Locate Oil Drain Plug". It zoom's in on a bolt that I'm supposed to remove. This bolt looks a lot farther back then the one you show in your pictures (in your pictures the bolt looks really close to the filter).

 

My oil filter I removed by getting at it from the passenger side by the bumper. (accessed it by that plastic door thing you show)

 

But the "Oil Drain Plug" I removed by getting at it under the car right by my drivers side door. Could this maybe have been for my transmission fluid?

 

Any help on this is much appreciated, as I want to make sure I didn't remove the wrong fluid..

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He is pointing at the correct drain plug in the pictures. The oil drain plug is the standard external hex (like a standard bolt). Tranny or anything else will most likely be a torx or internal hex.

 

What color was the fluid that came out?

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Ya, the bolt i removed was an internal hex (had to use an allen key to remove it).

 

The bolt i was looking for / removed was the one from the video I linked. but after looking at these photos I'm thinking its not the same one.

 

If you check the part 3 of the video on that link you will see the one I'm talking about.

 

Since I drained the fluid into a black plastic oil pan, i couldn't really tell what color it was..

 

I also noticed the Oil level being high (haven't really driven the car yet)

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Yeah part 3 of that video is the transmission drain plug (which in the video is an external hex for some reason). Im almost positive our cars are all internal hex on the tranny (at least on autos).

 

If you filled the oil up without draining it, it will be very overfilled. Best bet is to drain it comletely and refill to the correct amount, and also dont forget to top off the tranny. I do not know the fluid amount for a drain and fill of the tranny off the top of my head though.

 

The oil plug is right in front of the crossmember on which the engine sits.

 

FYI the tranny fills through its dipstick located on the drivers side of the transmission toward the firewall. The passenger side dipstick is the front diff if you have an automatic. If you have a manual then I believe the front diff and tranny share the same fluid. You will need a long, thin funnel.

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After further looking at more photos and the Car Manual. I've come to the conclusion that the video shows me the wrong bolt in step 3:confused:, but then shows the right one in step 4.

 

I'm now thinking I drained my transmission fluid, changed my oil filter, and now have probably twice the amount of Oil needed...:spin:

 

both things that I can only assume are NOT good for the car..

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FYI the tranny fills through its dipstick located on the drivers side of the transmission toward the firewall. The passenger side dipstick is the front diff if you have an automatic. If you have a manual then I believe the front diff and tranny share the same fluid. You will need a long, thin funnel.

 

Ive got the 5 speed auto, so does that mean i have to fill the transmission dipstick on both sides? (2005 GT)

 

Thanks for the help btw, and sorry bout the thread highjack.. the awesome description + photos of the OP made me realize that what I had done wasn't the same :rolleyes:

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The fact that you used an allen for the drain plug tells me it was definitely the transmission fluid (red in color or darker depending on its condition).

 

On the 5eat Automatic:

Oil Plug: External Hex

Tranny Plug: Internal Hex

Differential Plug: Torx

 

As long as you havent run the engine you should be fine. And yes, they actually drain it properly in step 4, but show the wrong plug initially.

 

And no, you only need to fill the dipstick on the driver's side of the car. The other side is the to fill the differential and would only need filled it you drained that as well.

 

The dipsticks for the diff and trans are actually labelled accordingly. They should say "Diff" and "Trans" or something like that on them.

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I have already run the engine... mostly to let it idle for a while and move it out of the garage.

 

What have I possibly done by running it? and is there anything I should do now that I have?

 

Other then getting all that extra oil out of there and replacing the transmission fluid of course.

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Yes, drain your engine oil, and make sure to fill the trans.

 

If you only idled it and moved it a few feet you will be fine. Just don't drive it til you fix it up.

 

-Mike Paisan

 

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Diehard, sorry to hear about your difficulties. Glad to hear that this thread helped you at though. It was the whole reason why I made so if I helped one person out then that is all I can ask for. Sounds like you are all squared away and a leason learned so you won't have any problems next time!
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  • 3 years later...

Since I drained the fluid into a black plastic oil pan, i couldn't really tell what color it was..

 

I know this is an old thread, but I feel a comment is in order to help identify fluids.

 

Dip a strip of white notebook paper into the liquid you drained out. If it was ATF the paper will show red (bright red indicates clean ATF) or a ruddy red color (dirty ATF).

 

 

Engine oil will make the paper black.

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