TheTransporter Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 So I had some trans problems, and got it all fixed with a new clutch and everything. When I picked it up from the shop it started fine. I got up to go to work the next day and it wouldnt start. There is power, but the engine wont try and turn over. Instead there is this kind of electronic grinding sound (best way i can describe it). I thought he may not have tightened the starter all the way back up. But I was just under there and its tight. Any other thoughts of what it could be? [ame= ] [/ame] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypher0117 Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Is the sounds more of a grinding or is it more of a clicking sound. If it's clicking I would say it's your battery. Dash lights and dome lights can still come on even if your battery doesn't have enough power to energize the starter solenoid and would thus make an "electric clicking/grinding" sound. Check all your electrical connections. If there are grounds missing or loose/unconnected plugs you could drain your battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegacyGTBiggie Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 I forget. But doesnt the starter motor have to come out or is right next to the transmission? Might the shop have damaged it working on your clutch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTransporter Posted September 16, 2010 Author Share Posted September 16, 2010 Its not just the click of a battery that doesn't have enough power. Its a constant grindingish kind of noise as long as i push the key forward (obviously don't push it forward for too long). Biggie - Yes the starter does have to come off to take the trans out, which is why I think the shop had something to do with it. I didn't like the way the shop did things, so this is just icing on the cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypher0117 Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Take your starter off and see if all the teeth are still on it. Shine a flashlight on your flywheel as well to see if it has all of its teeth. If all of the teeth are still present then I'd take the starter to autozone where they can do a free check on it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTransporter Posted September 16, 2010 Author Share Posted September 16, 2010 Yea looks like its just going to have to come off and I'll take a look at it. Just really pissed because I hadn't had my car in 3.5 weeks, I finally get it back, excited to drive it, and then bam! no starty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTransporter Posted September 18, 2010 Author Share Posted September 18, 2010 Ok so I just had the started tested and its fine. I didn't take a look at the flywheel yet, but its brand new so it shouldn't be a problem. Any other ideas of what it could be? The sound sounds almost like the noise it makes if you turn the key to start the car when its already on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypher0117 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 What kind of flywheel did you put in there? Sounds to me like something isn't lined up properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTransporter Posted September 18, 2010 Author Share Posted September 18, 2010 put an 06 wrx single mass flywheel in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMMER DOWN Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Ok, from what you said, you either have missing or broken teeth on starter or fly wheel. Just because it's new don't mean it's not defective. You need to visually check the teeth on the fly wheel & starter. If everything is ok there. Need to check the alignment of the start to the fly wheel. Call the shop that did the install & see if they can help you out with your problem. Mike Mileage:331487 Retired/Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTransporter Posted September 18, 2010 Author Share Posted September 18, 2010 Thanks Mike. Ill take the starter back off and check the flywheel. Is there a way I can check, Or fix the alignment myself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMMER DOWN Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 It's a PITA. Take the measurement from starter flange that mates up to the bell housing to the fare edge of the start drive gear, full push out. Then measure from the bell housing flange where the starter mate to it, to the fare edge of the fly wheel. Min. the measurements should be the same. Ideally the fly wheel should be in the middle if the starter gear when engaged. To check the height of the starter gear to the fly wheel. Needs to measure from the bolt hole of the starter to the top of teeth of the drive gear. Them measure from the bolt holes of the bell housing for the starter to the top of the fly wheel teeth. They should be the same within .06" this means you start gear & fly gear are full messing & engaging each other. A easier why mite be, is to some ring & pinion alignment grease. Put all over the starter gear. Reinstall start. Start car, pull start and see where the fly wheel is engaging the starter. The fly wheel teeth will leave tracks in the ring & pinion alignment grease on the start gear where they are engaging. Mike Mileage:331487 Retired/Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTransporter Posted September 20, 2010 Author Share Posted September 20, 2010 Hmm, that first way does sound like a pain haha. I'm going to try one of these tonight. Thanks a lot for the info/help, I really appreciate it. Any other opinions are welcome in case this doesn't work as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTransporter Posted September 20, 2010 Author Share Posted September 20, 2010 updated first post with audio. make sure your volume is up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTransporter Posted September 20, 2010 Author Share Posted September 20, 2010 I took the starter back off to check the flywheel. I couldnt get a view of the teeth, but they felt fine. There isn't any forward or backward play in the flywheel either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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