emosound Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Hey all,I just finished installing Koni shocks on my 05 LGT wagon. I did not see any walk-thrus on the site, so I posted my pics on FB.http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/album.php?aid=30932&id=1544025094 Please note, this is not a step-by-step on how to remove/disassemble/reassemble/install shocks, rather, it is intended to help clarify the specific steps needed to install the Koni strut inserts into the front struts.I will say that it was a bit of a PITA, but certainly doable. There are no special tools needed aside from a hacksaw and a good metal drill bit selection. Air tools are highly recommended. And some patience! This is not a fast job if you want them done right. However, the time was totally worth it. The car is simply transformed by these shocks! I have Ion springs, and with the stock shocks, the car floated and bobbed like a canoe in a hurricane. Now, it drives like a proper sport sedan: firm, controlled and predictable. -Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattg Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 cool and thanks. How much increase in ride harshness? How do you have them set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emosound Posted September 23, 2009 Author Share Posted September 23, 2009 I have them set one turn from full soft. The ride is significantly more firm. I like it. The wife likes it most of the time, but there are a few rough patches and frost heaves in town that do feel pretty sharp. I haven't tried them at different settings yet. The tradeoff for the increase in impact harshness is a car that feels more German sport sedan than American luxo-barge. Worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devobuzz Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 I just installed mine this weekend too. Had them 1 turn front and 1.5 turns rear but it was too stiif, so I backed it down to 1/2 turn front, 1 turn rear. I see you put a piece of tape around the strut like I did. This was good for getting a straight cut all around with a hacksaw. Also you put the rubber boot all the way down on top of the old strut housing. I slid mine up it so it sat in the groove on top of the insert. See my post here for pics: http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=120552 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatbastard Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Has anyone switched to the Koni's on stock springs? I need to upgrade my dampers and would like a more predictable ride but can't sacrifice ground clearance. Just wondering if they are well paired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emosound Posted September 23, 2009 Author Share Posted September 23, 2009 Hey devobuzz,How do you like them at those shock settings? I might turn mine down to see if the ride smooths out at all. I don't think it matters much exactly where the rubber boot ends up, as the stock dust boot covers that whole area. I just went with the instructions pics. It's not like any dirt that does get in there will do any harm. How long do it take you to do the install? I was doing SS lines at the same time, and the 4 rear lines put up a big fight, which took up many hours. I spent the better part of 2 days on the car. -Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devobuzz Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 I like it better softer. It was just too stiff. I did the install over the course of 2 days but total time was about 4 hours. I screwed up putting the washer in the wrong spot on the front strut, so i hade to take it out and disassemble it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyWifezLEGi Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 hey i dont have facebook, do you mind emailing the pix to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emosound Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 hey i dont have facebook, do you mind emailing the pix to me? It's quite a few big images. You should be able to view my facebook album with this "public link", even if you do not have Facebook yourself: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=30932&id=1544025094&l=16e0bceb58 Let me know if it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05 Outback 2.5i Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 What part number strut cartridges did you use in the front/shocks in the back? I was wondering about trying to do this with an Outback, but obviously have longer/taller struts and would probably need a different cartridge. May I ask what you paid each as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emosound Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 I got them from Crucial Racing, an LGT vendor, for $645 shipped. http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80721 8610 1447 Fronts 8010 1053 Rears I presume they would lower your Outback by several inches. probably won't work with the stock tires (not to mention the suspension geometry would be all a higgledy piggledy). I do remember something about the last generation Legacy Outback having spacer blocks between the body and subframe, take them out and change to the LGT struts and it would be mostly correct. I don't know if the same is true of the 05+ Outback. You would have to figure out where to cut the front struts yourself, the directions are for the shorter LGT struts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05 Outback 2.5i Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I got them from Crucial Racing, an LGT vendor, for $645 shipped. http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80721 8610 1447 Fronts 8010 1053 Rears I presume they would lower your Outback by several inches. probably won't work with the stock tires (not to mention the suspension geometry would be all a higgledy piggledy). I do remember something about the last generation Legacy Outback having spacer blocks between the body and subframe, take them out and change to the LGT struts and it would be mostly correct. I don't know if the same is true of the 05+ Outback. You would have to figure out where to cut the front struts yourself, the directions are for the shorter LGT struts. Thanks, appreciate the insight as I look for options for the Outback.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyDog Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Thanks' date=' appreciate the insight as I look for options for the Outback..[/quote'] You would have to get regular struts for the front to place the konis in, the outback struts are too long for the inserts Rear are simple replacements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.sane Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Thanks for the great write-up! It will come in handy when I get these eventually.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emosound Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 Thanks' date=' appreciate the insight as I look for options for the Outback..[/quote'] The thought occurs now that the 2.5 might have different hubs from the GT. I don't know if they do, or if the shock mounting is any different, just some more stuff for you to figure out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyWifezLEGi Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 It's quite a few big images. You should be able to view my facebook album with this "public link", even if you do not have Facebook yourself: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=30932&id=1544025094&l=16e0bceb58 Let me know if it works. got it thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmad Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Hi, do you need anything else besides the konis and the front legacy struts? i know the Bilstein HDs require spec B top hats, but have not heard anything similar for the Konis. thanks Julian, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emosound Posted August 4, 2010 Author Share Posted August 4, 2010 Hi, do you need anything else besides the konis and the front legacy struts? i know the Bilstein HDs require spec B top hats, but have not heard anything similar for the Konis. thanks Julian, Nope, the Konis use the stock strut hats. Nothing else to buy. -Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDW25gt Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 What size are the bolts that go into the bottom to hold the insert inside the old housing? I had one fall out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emosound Posted December 7, 2011 Author Share Posted December 7, 2011 What size are the bolts that go into the bottom to hold the insert inside the old housing? I had one fall out. 12mm bolt, not sure what length. Not very long, if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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