Zac88 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 want to replace my fog lights as the yellow nokyas I have arent bright enough for my taste, any suggestions? Car is in the body shop so I want to do it ASAP Do not want HID's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underpowerd Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 hid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac88 Posted January 8, 2011 Author Share Posted January 8, 2011 HID's will completely kill the purpose of foglights.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierce88 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 they make 3k yellow HID kits... -Pierce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaskajoel Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 3k hid in fog is probably the best option. I have PIAA 3k halogens in mine now, and they're very comparable to the nokyas i've used in the past...not that impressive. Another alternative would be yellow film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalyst Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 HID's will completely kill the purpose of foglights.... Incorrect. "This is an adventure." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac88 Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 Incorrect. prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk6933 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Well, the HID in 3000k will be "brighter" than Nokya, because I had the Nokya before, BUT if you are talking about brightness as in shines further down the road, you need to re-aim the fogs. The light output will be a bit better, but not enough to notice inside the vehicle unless you re-aim the fogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDN 2.5i Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I run 4500K DDM HIDs in my fogs with yellow lamin-x film. Regardless of whether you use 3000K or white bulbs with yellow films, the result is so much better than the 55w H3 halogens ever were. I could barely tell if the fogs were on/off when using the halogen bulbs. Now, with HIDs, there is a noticeable increase in light output when I turn them on. They work very well IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalyst Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 prove it. HIDs provide more lumens than a halogen bulb. You need to PROVE how in the hell it defeats the purpose of fogs if you're going to make ridiculous claims. "This is an adventure." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac88 Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 you must be an idiot if you think you can put HID's in a Halogen housing and expect the light cutoff to be perfect and not scatter all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJLGT Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalyst Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 L o L This isn't a '92 Civic dude. Both the headlights and foglights are projectors, not reflectors. You're argument is null and void. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/StevenCole/Auto%20Photo%20Shoots/Legacy/DSC_0671.jpg http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs109.snc1/4922_525077369302_72100768_31080367_3628371_n.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/StevenCole/Auto%20Photo%20Shoots/Legacy/DSC_8291.jpg "This is an adventure." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac88 Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 haha so you're telling me HID and Halogen projectors are the same? And HID bulbs and halogen bulbs are the same length? I think you need to read buddy, but anyways i'm not going to argue anymore, lets say you are 100% right but i'm still not putting HID's in my fogs or low beams for that matter. I'm looking for halogen bulbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalyst Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 haha so you're telling me HID and Halogen projectors are the same? And HID bulbs and halogen bulbs are the same length? Where did I state this? Of course it's not the same as a HID retro with say the RX330 projector. But it won't "scatter" as you say all over the place. I think you need to read buddy, but anyways i'm not going to argue anymore, lets say you are 100% right but i'm still not putting HID's in my fogs or low beams for that matter. I'm looking for halogen bulbs. That's fine. You're thread title asked for the "brightest." HID is the brightest, as stated. If you want to keep running halogens, that's perfectly fine and your choice. But don't spread misinformation blatant untruths. "This is an adventure." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac88 Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 your right, I should have stated that I didnt want HID's now can we drop it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTS Jeff Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 haha so you're telling me HID and Halogen projectors are the same? And HID bulbs and halogen bulbs are the same length? I think you need to read buddy, but anyways i'm not going to argue anymore, lets say you are 100% right but i'm still not putting HID's in my fogs or low beams for that matter. I'm looking for halogen bulbs. They are not the same, but they are close enough that the extra output of HIDs in the halogen projectors more than compensate for the slightly non-optimal optics. In particular, H7 projectors work quite well with HID kits because focal distance is nearly identical (27.1mm vs. 27.05mm) and the HID capsule length is identical to the halogen filament length (4.1mm) and the nature of projectors means that the cutoff shield creates a sharp cutoff regardless of light source. The only real issue with Legacy lowbeam projectors are the squirrel finders, which can be filled. As another poster said, this isn't a 92 Civic we're working with. Having done this on my own lowbeams, I can say that I greatly prefer HIDs over even the best halogens (Osram Rallye) and that it lights up the road well without producing excessive glare. I can't say for sure that the OEM fog projectors are quite as good, but some searching will show you that people are generally quite happy with having HIDs in them. One thing I am sure about, is that you look like a donkey here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac88 Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 They are not the same, but they are close enough that the extra output of HIDs in the halogen projectors more than compensate for the slightly non-optimal optics. In particular, H7 projectors work quite well with HID kits because focal distance is nearly identical (27.1mm vs. 27.05mm) and the HID capsule length is identical to the halogen filament length (4.1mm) and the nature of projectors means that the cutoff shield creates a sharp cutoff regardless of light source. The only real issue with Legacy lowbeam projectors are the squirrel finders, which can be filled. As another poster said, this isn't a 92 Civic we're working with. Having done this on my own lowbeams, I can say that I greatly prefer HIDs over even the best halogens (Osram Rallye) and that it lights up the road well without producing excessive glare. I can't say for sure that the OEM fog projectors are quite as good, but some searching will show you that people are generally quite happy with having HIDs in them. One thing I am sure about, is that you look like a donkey here. Thats nice but like I mentioned I do NOT want HID's, i'm sticking with halogens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTS Jeff Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Thats nice but like I mentioned I do NOT want HID's, i'm sticking with halogens. What do you expect when you call everyone idiots when you're the only one being an idiot? Or did you forget this post already? you must be an idiot if you think you can put HID's in a Halogen housing and expect the light cutoff to be perfect and not scatter all over the place. Your "reasons" for hating on HIDs have been debunked, so why are you still so stubborn about halogens? You won't find anything significantly brighter than OEM in halogens unless you up the wattage, which would cause heat issues in the small projectors. But have fun, Eeyore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac88 Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 debunked? If you can seriously prove me wrong with facts and figures then i'll run HID's but you cant. Daniel Stern clearly states that HID's are not recomended for foglights, read up on his website if you dont believe me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDN 2.5i Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 As others have said, HIDs work well in the OE factory housings. I run them in both my lowbeams and fogs, very pleased. Daniel Stern has some valid points but I was never happy with the halogen bulbs in my fogs. In fact, I was sorely disappointed. I expect the reason you are looking for the brightest bulbs also suggests that you are not happy with the output. I wouldn't recommend putting a higher wattage bulb (eg 100w) in there either as they'll generate more heat than would be recommended as well as put a larger draw on the factory wiring. Neither of which would be good. 35watt HIDs on the other hand, when wired up using a harness, draw less amps through the factory wiring and are brighter. Good luck with your search for brighter bulbs but I expect you won't be satisfied... Good luck with your attitude too . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac88 Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 If there has been a study made and pictures of the cut-off and long term use to not get flashed by on coming traffic then I will look into HID's but at this time I will not. I am sorry for the words I have said earlier on too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac88 Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 I had installed HID's on my old 98 legacy with JDM projectors, sure it was nice but the light cutoff was horrible and even pointed down other drivers would flash me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinnig Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 The PIAA H3 ION CRYSTAL are excellent - am very happy with them. http://www.piaa.com/Bulbs/Bulbs-H3.html want to replace my fog lights as the yellow nokyas I have arent bright enough for my taste, any suggestions? Car is in the body shop so I want to do it ASAP Do not want HID's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac88 Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 The PIAA H3 ION CRYSTAL are excellent - am very happy with them. http://www.piaa.com/Bulbs/Bulbs-H3.html Do you have pics of them? Also where can I buy them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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