92bc Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 so i just purchased a 92 legacy L for $100 and it won't start, cranks good, has good compression, and good spark, no sucktion at the throttle body so all i can think is somehow or another the timing is 180' off causing it to fire at the wrong time so on and so on, this is my first time dealing with a subie so i am in the dark. i am thinking i am going to tear the front of the motor off and see if the timing is off, any help or suggestions would help tremendously thanks in advance for the help ill get some pics up later of it if you really want to see it lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdubs Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Well, you are headed in the right direction. First thing to check will be the timing belt. Not an issue if it has snapped, it does no harm to this engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92bc Posted February 1, 2010 Author Share Posted February 1, 2010 belt has not snapped and timing marks all line up, any clues for a next step all help or ideas welcome, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Congrats on the 100$ car! That is awesome! SOMEone here will have answers for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92bc Posted February 1, 2010 Author Share Posted February 1, 2010 thanks i really hope so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqc151 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 check ur fuel filter and fuel pump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa g Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 I would make sure fuel is getting to the throttle body first before tearing off the front. After that then I would go into the front and check out the timing belt. BE committed to DO what it takes to HAVE more of what you want in your life!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92bc Posted February 1, 2010 Author Share Posted February 1, 2010 getting fuel just fine, timing on crank is off by one tooth, going to pull off and reset timing and see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Racing Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 That's a nice find for $100. By the way, the fuel doesn't travel to the throttle body. That's only in TBI injected motors like the ones from early 90's GM and Ford. Fuel on the Subie comes from twin fuel rails mounted in the intake manifold near the ports of the cylinder heads (Hence Multi Port Fuel Injection). Anyway, check for vacuum leaks. If there is no vacuum at the throttle body there might be one somewhere. It would have to be a giant one to prevent any suction at the throttle body though... We're talking a massive gaping hole. Even with a vacuum leak the engine should still pop, sputter, and fire a little bit. Any videos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92bc Posted February 2, 2010 Author Share Posted February 2, 2010 ha ha i got it!!! it broke the key that holds the crank gear in place and the cam pully, it broke the end of the cam too. so what did i do you ask?? i welded the crank gear straight to the end of the crank and put a new timing belt on then tacked the crank pully into place just so it wont spin freely from the crank. on a car without so many miles i wouldn't have done this, it will work until the motor shitts out and then i will just buy a turbo motor and manuel trans and put them in instead lol total cost of car..... $140 because of new timing belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92bc Posted February 2, 2010 Author Share Posted February 2, 2010 i havent drove it yet it pissed all of its trans fluid out when the radiator was out so i have to refil that, this is a dumb question but how do you fill the trans on this car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Racing Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Right down the transmission dipstick. Just make sure you don't fill the front diff by accident. Did that once when I did a transmission flush. I felt like a complete moron after too..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92bc Posted February 4, 2010 Author Share Posted February 4, 2010 drove it finally went and found some snow crusted with ice that was like a foot deep this is my first all wheel drive car so i played in that for a bit it was fun even with bald tires a bad cv joint and a bent rim. anyway am i correct in assuming that when you replace the tires you have to replace all four at the same time and they have to be the same brand and everything? thanks to all i am learning something new everyday about this car on this website you guys rock!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Racing Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Depends on your financial status. If the tires are bald replace them all. If only the fronts are bald then only buy 2. If you don't want to spend the money to get new tires and pay to have them mounted find a good looking set of 2 or 4 tires from a junkyard. It is best to get matching brands, but if you can't find matching brands at the very least you must get matching sizes. The size will be visible on the side of the tire. Get them with rims if you can, otherwise you still have to pay to get the mounted (Unless you're magical and can pull either a set of tire spoons or a mounting machine out of your butt). You can mix and match tires, just make sure they are all the same size and none of them have any cracks (AKA Dryrot) in between the treads or on the sidewalls. Tires showing signs of dryrot have an increased tendency to blow out on you. If you have the money, you're best bet is always going with a matching set of 4 brand new tires, most places include free balancing or a free 4 wheel alignment. If you're going to go that route, pick up another rim from a junkyard to replace the bent one on the car and give it to the place you buy your tires from. Tell them to replace the wheel with the bent one then give you the old one back so you can toss it in a McDonalds dumpster at 3:00 AM. If you get the free 4 wheel alignment with your complete tire purchase, don't hold out much hope that they'll be able to get it spot on, since the bolts tend to seize up on these cars after a while. They came close with mine but they couldn't align the rear because the bolts were seized and they wouldn't touch them after that. One more tip, replace the CV shaft before you take the car in for an alignment. The upper bolt that holds the knuckle to the strut is eccentric, meaning it is used to set camber for the wheel. If you get an alignment then replace the CV shaft and don't put this bolt back exactly where they had it you're going to be off on your camber settings and you'll notice you'll burn through your new tire on that side faster than all the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Wagon Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 "then give you the old one back so you can toss it in a McDonalds dumpster at 3:00 AM" That'll show 'em for creating the "McDouble"...jerks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92bc Posted February 4, 2010 Author Share Posted February 4, 2010 i can get tires from work mount and balance them for freei work at a toyota dealer so i will just steal some from the used tire pile out back lol i just needed to know if everything had to be exactly the same or not. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqc151 Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92bc Posted February 8, 2010 Author Share Posted February 8, 2010 ah got some new tires that are all the same size and good tread left and a new cv joint so the car is solid and good to go ralley in now!!! lol its so fun in a snowy muddy field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dohctapost Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Very nice! Pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subikid90 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 ^+1.Lets see this $100 deal of the year haha -Subikid90 1997 Legacy GT 5spd & EJ251 w/EJ25D heads ~10.5CR 1998 Legacy GT Limited waiting for EJ22T hybrid swap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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